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Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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post #159

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You can toggle a compile option to allow unsigned addons. I've mentioned this repeatedly and I'm unsure how you didn't notice that.

Then you don't get security updates. That's forcing users to make uncomfortable tradeoffs.

And that’s as it should be. The average user gets signed addons and the “advanced” user can jump through some hoops for advanced functionality.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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post #7

It’s good for Mozilla to take a stance, and drop the pretense that you can have the cake, eat it, and have all your other cookies left over. Circumventing paywalls is not a crime, but it is also not victimless. The crisis for journalism is already eating at the foundations of democracy on the local level. To blithely ignore this is the triump of short-sighted egoism. And the inability of publishers to prevent you fro…

It's bad for Mozilla to take a stance that's obviously against the preferences of their users. They can't play both sides of the field - either you're for the User, or you're for the Corps. I once sincerely believed that Firefox was part of a statement that they would fight for the User. That disappeared somewhere between 4.0 and 27.0. I believed there was still some hope in Mozilla - all of it has been eroded over the years.

So now, they've taken their stance. They don't want free users. They want corporate servants, the same as Microsoft, Apple, and Google.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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post #163
post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can toggle a compile option to allow unsigned addons. I've mentioned this repeatedly and I'm unsure how you didn't notice that.

And I've explained that you can't expect the average newbie coder to navigate the recompilation process; I'm unsure why you blithely dismiss people who aren't as capable as you.

1. So you have the set of people who would be much better off in a “walled garden”, in my experience that is almost everyone.

2. You have the set of people who can compile the code from source and who want to get outside of the wall.

3. You have the set of people who want to get out of the wall but don’t have the technical expertise to know the dangers of doing so.

4. You have people who have the technical expertise to know the dangers but not the technical expertise to compile code.

I think people in group 4 should learn how to be in group 2, because we have almost four decades worth of evidence to know how badly people in group 3 can do.

Edit: changed group 2 to group 3 in the last sentence.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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post #156

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The economics and game theory of this suggests that newspapers should be forced to cooperate with each other. Cartelize on-line journalism. Make the 4th estate official. Create a pseudo-governmental entity like the US post office, Fannie Mae, or the Fed. If you have an Internet connection, you have the option, through your ISP, to pay $X towards journalism on the web. Your ISP will then cryptographically vouch for an…

That sounds like you could just paraphrase it as "Spotify for newspapers".

If you insist on reducing a perfectly readable story to just a three-word sentence, journalism is already doomed.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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post #2

I don't want to subscribe, I also don't want to see ads or be tracked. I wish there was a universal micropayments way of paying for what I read.

I have found that lowering my threshold for bullshit* has also increased the signal ratio of the content I read by a huge margin. I believe there is correlation.

* includes crippled without JS, ads, paywalls, poor accessibility, etc.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I've explained that you can't expect the average newbie coder to navigate the recompilation process; I'm unsure why you blithely dismiss people who aren't as capable as you.

1. So you have the set of people who would be much better off in a “walled garden”, in my experience that is almost everyone. 2. You have the set of people who can compile the code from source and who want to get outside of the wall. 3. You have the set of people who want to get out of the wall but don’t have the technical expertise to know the dangers of doing so. 4. You have people who have the technical expertise…

Perhaps, they forced them to do that in the middle of their workday in order to get their UX back. Imagine if your computer crashed and when it restarted it came with the mouse drivers disabled and you had to use the arrows to move the mouse around, and you were reassured you could sign up for WDN to restore use of the mouse.

And I don’t think expecting the user to personally recompile for every update is reasonable, especially if you claim to let users gain control of their machines again.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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After reading all these comments, perhaps its time to branch Firefox to something else? This situation feels like the old Mozilla vs Firefox issue that happened a decade and a half ago. Perhaps the fact that the Mozilla Foundation is treating their browser like an Apple device is the final impetus to move elsewhere?

Unfortunately, with the size and scope of a browser and the sheer numbers of features constantly being added, this is a difficult task. What would be ideal is a company (preferably with financial incentive to do so) maintaining an embeddable, highly configurable form of FF (ala CEF[0]) and then the rest of us can build UI around it.

[0] - https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef

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