No country is worse than Germany for software developers. Even the guy from India in this thread earns 2-3x more than usual senior salary in Germany, but expenses are 10x higher here. I really hate this country.
My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer
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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer
#202No country is worse than Germany for software developers. Even the guy from India in this thread earns 2-3x more than usual senior salary in Germany, but expenses are 10x higher here. I really hate this country.
Why don't you leave then?
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#203I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…
Something significant happened between years 10 and 12. You managed to double your pay. May I ask what it was? Incidentally, I'm at exactly the same experience as you and I'll just say I make a lot less.
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#204I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…
Here in Italy we discuss #2 - For example for an annual income of 30.000€ before taxes, it will be around 1.400 - 1.500€ month after taxes.
And I had the same experience: it's almost impossible to have salaries jump without changing jobs (and from a business perspective the reasons for that are quite obvious)
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#205Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer
#206I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…
2018 - Salary for me an expat in Germany at a fintech startup: 53k Euros a year. No signing bonus. No options. Experience: 5 years as a DBA the rest a sad self taught programmer with 6 months of prior startup experience shipping microservices in C# and Python.
Startup in logistics 2018 6 months: 48k euros.
Previous: DBA in Portland Oregon in 2013 to 2017 - 60k to 70k then as an EDW dev 78k USD.
Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer
#207No country is worse than Germany for software developers. Even the guy from India in this thread earns 2-3x more than usual senior salary in Germany, but expenses are 10x higher here. I really hate this country.
Move to India?
Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer
#208Very interesting thread this link has spawned. Not telling each other how much we make is only good for our employers, not us. So here we go: The Netherlands, 26yo male: 45k ($50k) as a technical trainee. It's €3200 ($3600) pre-tax a month and €2350 ($2670) after tax with %12,5 end of year bonus. First job here, and this is already above modal for my country. I'm very happy with it, especially seeing I don't have a f…
It boggles my mind that salaries can be so much lower in parts of Europe, while expenses are about the same as the US. Of course if you are living in New York City or San Francisco area expenses are higher, but most places they are not.
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#209I'm probably the lowest paid person in the whole thread. 2015 - $40,000 USD - remote for a small company 2017 - $32,000 USD - on-site for a tiny company 2018 - $33,000 USD - remote for another small company I was asked what my current salary is during one of my on-site interviews at FAANG. I had to put on a poker face and lie about it.
Curious to know why you decided to take a pay cut. And you mentioned that you lied during the interview regarding your salary. In India, companies usually ask for 3 months salary slip as proof. Does it not happen in the country where you work?
Don't know about elsewhere but that's a huuuuge no-no in Australia.
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#210all figures are total comp
'05-'07 - software engineer, midwest - $54k -> $68k
'08-'14 - software enginner, east coast non-profit - $70k -> $90k
'15-'17 - swe III, google - $200k -> $260k