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Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Thanks! Is there a way to do this legally? I might try it in a VM but if I go down the road of considering it as an alternative I need to be able to do this completely legally. Money is not the problem.

https://forums.mydigitallife.net/

Just to be clear: this is not the "legal" way. You won't end up with FBI busting down your door or getting a letter from your ISP/microsoft, but it's by no means "legit".

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Why do you care? It works.

The idea that you can take the current state of modern desktop Linux as a consumer OS for the masses* is still just as crazy in 2018 as it always has been in years past. I’m old enough to have seen a generation of Linux reviews proclaiming “this is the one!!” that can be the viable desktop OS for your family’s computers, and it never happens (the marketshare figures speak for themselves). A consumer OS simply cannot…

People who can’t copy a command into a terminal window should just get iPads or Chromebooks.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Do businesses even use windows 10? Every company I've been at has been windows 7, only one was windows 8.1 a couple of years ago.

Numbers I’ve seen suggest it’s about 50/50, with almost no Windows 8 users. The 50% still on 7 will probably have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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It never stops to amaze me how unwilling most people are to explore the latest Win10 options to always defer updates by number of days (eg stay a week behind on feature updates to let others be more on the cutting edge), or even temporarily freeze the windows update service by up to a two digit number of days. If I ever wanted to be sure that no updates took place I'd use the freeze. Switching OS might be a solution,…

I think the problem isn't just that Windows updates happen immediately by default. It's that Windows updates when you boot up your computer. See, turning on a computer is an explicit declaration that you want to use it. Windows updates ignores this declaration by taking that time to itself. It doesn't matter if I can defer the update by how many days if one day it will stop/delay me from using my computer when I want…

My memory might be wrong, but I don't think Windows 95 had automatic updates at all. They were tacked on when Windows security vulnerabilities became such a big deal in the late 1990s. Automatic updates felt like a hack in the beginning, and it feels like they still are.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Humble tip - You can pause updates for up to 45 days. During this period, you can enable them at your leisure. This is what I do when I'm leaving my computer for an overnight rendering.

My own humble tip - switch this shit off. Here's what I've found to work for me: 0. install whichever Windows 10 has the group policy editor - I've got Windows 10 Pro, I think. (I'm at home right now and my work laptop is at the office) 1. run gpedit.msc 2. Go to Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update 3. Double-click Configure Automatic Updates 4. Set u…

Thanks for this, it's however a little sad that it takes that much work for such a simple concept: don't fck with my stuff.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #186

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Humble tip - You can pause updates for up to 45 days. During this period, you can enable them at your leisure. This is what I do when I'm leaving my computer for an overnight rendering.

My own humble tip - switch this shit off. Here's what I've found to work for me: 0. install whichever Windows 10 has the group policy editor - I've got Windows 10 Pro, I think. (I'm at home right now and my work laptop is at the office) 1. run gpedit.msc 2. Go to Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update 3. Double-click Configure Automatic Updates 4. Set u…

The absolutely infuriating thing is, as soon as a ”disable updates” hack gains posterity, Microsoft shuts it down. If you just follow the first Google result for disabling updates, you still end up getting reboots.

It’s one of the most anti-user policies Microsoft has pulled, and they have a long list..

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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I'm a tolerant person, but recently I switched from Windows to Mac because the forced Windows updates kept messing me up. One time I left a long simulation running overnight. In the morning, I was greeted by a computer that had automatically rebooted to install updates, killing my simulation. Another instance was my daughter's birthday party, where she wanted to show a movie. The computer decided to spend an hour doi…

"Another instance was my daughter's birthday party, where she wanted to show a movie. The computer decided to spend an hour doing updates instead. It seems like Windows has become an update engine that will sometimes also do computation for you." This is, unfortunately, also true of Sonos. I would say that more than 10% of my attempted sonos usage is blocked by an update process. If you're just turning on the news fo…

The distinction being that Sonos updates rarely take more than a minute or two, and I've never seen one that was actually mandatory (the controller app will bug you about it, but it usually works anyways). Would be nice if it could automatically update while idle and I never had to worry about it, but that hardly seems necessary IME.

Granted, I've also never had Windows 10 unexpectedly reboot on me or force an update at an inconvenient time, either. If you're proactive about running updates at times that are convenient for you, and don't just ignore every popup and warning that Windows gives you when it's waiting for a reboot, you'll never see it reboot when you don't want it to.

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Yes. And its a bit creepy you think the answer should be no.

Here’s maybe a less-fraught analogy: say you have an autonomous car. Assume that the car’s autonomous-driving algorithms prevent it from hitting a person or another car no matter who’s driving, but don’t prevent it from, say, knocking down a telephone pole, or colliding with one of the support posts holding up a bridge. Now, do you have the right to own and drive this autonomous car around on public roads, if you’ve…

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Every time I get irked with MacOS, or get annoyed with the iPad, I weigh moving back to Windows. Then I see threads like this…

Maybe the real problem is that the two major desktop OS are currently bad.

Giant douche and turd sandwich.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #189

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"Another instance was my daughter's birthday party, where she wanted to show a movie. The computer decided to spend an hour doing updates instead. It seems like Windows has become an update engine that will sometimes also do computation for you." This is, unfortunately, also true of Sonos. I would say that more than 10% of my attempted sonos usage is blocked by an update process. If you're just turning on the news fo…

The distinction being that Sonos updates rarely take more than a minute or two, and I've never seen one that was actually mandatory (the controller app will bug you about it, but it usually works anyways). Would be nice if it could automatically update while idle and I never had to worry about it, but that hardly seems necessary IME. Granted, I've also never had Windows 10 unexpectedly reboot on me or force an update…

I agree I've never had Windows do an inconvenient update on me. But I'm like you, I don't ignore all the update warnings, I do it when I go to lunch or whatever. But I know lots of people who will seemingly not take note of any popups that come up and just ignore them forever. Have said that, these days it should be possible to build up a pattern of when you use your computer and do the update when it's never being used.
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