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Do you also not count the Insight? "That's not fair, they were -trying- to make it aerodynamic!" doesn't really fly as an argument.
It's more about the "not-normal"-ness. The Insight looks like a sporty coupe. The XL1 and EV1 look like pills.
Tesla’s Model 3 Is Becoming One of America’s Best-Selling Sedans
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Re: Tesla’s Model 3 Is Becoming One of America’s Best-Selling Sedans
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Sounds pretty good to me. It's not spot on, but maybe up to 5 years off? For being predicted 20 years ago, it's basically correct. The majority of new vehicles being fully electric will happen pretty soon. The economics of this happening are incredibly compelling, essentially inevitable. I would put this occurring before 2025, but it's hard to say. If the Chinese keep up the heavy push toward electrification, it will…
> The majority of new vehicles being fully electric will happen pretty soon. No? Not even remotely close to true. The Model 3 broke into the best selling sedan list. That's great, but it's not even in the same ballpark as an EV taking the top vehicle sales spot much less EVs being the majority of new vehicles. Just to return to reality here there are more F150s sold in 6 months than Tesla has sold in its lifetime (45…
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You'd have to survey their customers. Speaking personally, my wife and I are new customers. This is the first time that we've spent over $30k on a car. Between rebates, the cost of gas, and reductions in maintenance costs, we think that we save somewhere between 1/3 to 1/2 on the lifetime cost of ownership over the life of this car versus an ICE car. It is still a luxury, but between features like the driving assist,…
You really expect it to work out cheaper than an ICE car? Interesting. The Model S, as a data point, is one of the most expensive cars you can own, by total cost of ownership over five years. The 3 is cheaper but still pretty expensive for the class it's in. I guess if you plan on keeping it 10-20 years it might eventually recoup the high capital cost in fuel savings, but that's a pretty daring bet. Good luck!
My s is 3.5 years old, had one visit to fix something and has had 0 maintenance. No gasoline (electricity is about 1/4 the price of buying gas per range, which is why they rate it at around 100 mpg), no fuel filter, no oil changes, no air filter, no anything. It's wasn't 0 because they did all the maintenance under some prepaid thing either.
Where do you think all the tesla costs come from? Compare to say a 50k bmw or a 75k+ porsche?
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It’s just bad UX. They will add some rotary encoders before long. No need to regulate it :)
if it is still touchscreen only there's not much way to improve it, you'll have to watch the pane of glass and not the road since there's no tactile information.
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Driving through Cupertino neighborhoods, I've seen several homes with not one, not two, but three(!) Tesla's in their driveway. When I wash my Model S in the driveway, people walking by will often come up to tell me how much they love their own Tesla's (or wanting to know how I like mine). Never had that happen when I wash my Audi :) The Audi is even the more expensive car.
You might already know this, but you shouldn't really be washing your car on the driveway, especially if you aren't sure whether your drains there are connected to the sewer pipes, rather than the storm drain. A Tesla will give off less oil products but there is still the soap (phosphate) and rubber dust. A car wash treats and recycles the water.
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I’m not convinced on the lower maintenance costs. Can you speak to that a bit? It seems like there’s still a lot that can go wrong and you’re stuck paying whatever tesla wants to charge you to fix it.
Things EVs lack or have less chances of breaking: * Fanbelts * Flywheels * Transmissions * Oil Changes * Brakes / Brake pads (regenerative breaking makes them last a lot longer) * Transmissions * Spark Plugs and wires When there are less moving parts, there is less chance of them breaking. It really is as simple as that.
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I actually really like my 2016 C-class. It has a “hold” feature where, if you are at a stop light, you can give the brake pedal an extra push to “hold” the brakes and you can then take your foot off the brake pedal to rest, while the car keeps the brakes on. Then, when you start to accelerate, it automatically releases the brake and you go, just as if you swapped from the brake pedal to accelerator. You can also do t…
My Tesla Model 3 has that as well...
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Can we stop calling the Tesla driver assistance package by its inaccurate brand name? It is harmful.
And maybe Tesla shouldn't give its features brand names that are inaccurate and put lives at risk?
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Really this is like the start of digital cameras. Computer companies made the first digital cameras, then eventually camera companies made good digital cameras.
Are you sure about that? The best cameras nowadays seem to be made by computer companies (Apple, Samsung, Huawei, etc)
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The door handles are probably a deliberate choice to get the drag down as low as possible, without the expense of motorized handles like the S or motorized doors like the X. No other cars on the road have drag coefficients as low as the Model 3 (or the Model S, for that matter). From what I've seen, Teslas are the only cars that have the B-pillar flush to the glass, and flush, cavity-less door handles. That plus the…
I wonder if the gains would be significant if the regs allowed side mirrors to be replaced with cameras and a screen or projection onto the side windows.