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Uber Hit with Cap as New York City Takes Lead in Crackdown

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From https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/nyregion/a-taxi-driver-to... : Immigrants from Romania, the couple had bought their New York City taxi medallion nearly three decades ago. Lately, it had been difficult to find fares. Her husband worked 12-hour shifts, but brought home less money. He was worried about the plunging value of their once-lucrative medallion and frustrated about Uber’s takeover of the industry. On a…

The problem is not ride sharing, its the fact that being a taxi driver in NYC is viewed as an investment rather than a job. That you have to purchase a medallion for insane sums of usually borrowed money. It's a broken system. Could you imagine if you had to put up $1.3 million to be a factory worker? Money that you're still on the hook for if the factory ends up closing due to lack of demand? Charging people for the…

If the medallion was bought 30 years ago as said, it was surely acquired for closer to $3 than to $1 million. He could sell it for a large profit, despite the downtrend in the recent years.

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Driving a car from A to B is less miles driven than someone driving from X to A to pick you up before driving to B to drop you off them Y to wait for next ride. Thus Uber increases congestion.

Unless you only make 1-way trips, you still need to get from B back to A, so it's much more efficient to have a car that does these smaller individual legs of a trip for multiple people without needing parking space at every destination. Even better if that car can carry multiple people at the same time.

Parking spaces don’t get added at street level so they don’t make congestion worse. Really A to under ground parking at B back to underground parking at A is vastly better than Uber for the same trip.

Overall NYC has token street level parking because it’s such a bad use of limited land.

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Alternative title: "NYC Taxi mafia strikes back, gives Uber 12 months to come up with a large enough bribe". Really, the life of nearly everyone (who's not a taxi driver, perhaps) improved a bit since Uber entered the city. Even the fabled subway in its theoretical best has been dysfunctional in Brooklyn since the takedown of streetcars a hundred years ago (see how all the tracks are running towards Manhattan and ver…

Uber made NYC significantly worse. So, for anyone that drives they are a huge downgrade to life in the city. Core problem an Uber driving from A to pick someone up at B then dropping them off at C is much worse than that person driving from B to C. On top of that they tend to drive around without passengers to get to better locations. Taxi are also a problem but the limited number of medallions limited their impact.…

*made NYC (congestion) significantly worse.

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I don’t know how far, but possibly beyond glib dismissals of people’s suicides as a “real tear-jerker.”

(Shrug) It's an appropriate response, I think, to the use of peoples' suicides for purposes of overt emotional manipulation. Your beef is with the taxi cartels and their click-hungry sympathizers in the media, not with me. They started it.

It speaks more to your disposition than anything else that being troubled by other’s suicides is “emotional manipulation.”

And I don’t have “beefs” with fictional boogie man cooked up by Uber, however bought in you are to that narrative. I certainly don’t remember “taxi cartels” stealing and passing around the medical records of rape victims, but that was probably a conspiracy by their “click-hungry sympathizers in the media.”

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Airport trips are relatively easy, as long as you're in normal operating hours. Drivers don't want to go places where it's hard to get a return trip. JFK has plenty of passengers both ways.

This does not seem to jive with the parent comment to whom I was originally replying though: "Ubers don't want to go to the airport for the same reason that cabs don't."

Seems consistent to me: Ubers don't want to places where they can't easily pick up a return trip; same as cabs. That's always been my assumption, anyway.

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Where are you taking them from?

Midtown, the village, Brooklyn, Queens... Where are you taking them from?

I've been taking Ubers from and to JFK, EWR, and LGA from Williamsburg and Chinatown for years never had a cancel on any of them.

I thought the driver couldn't see the destination until they started the ride after you get in. Although I've encountered drivers starting a ride as soon as they see me on the street (which I contested and got money back for).

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I live and work in Manhattan and there's on-street parking everywhere. Most streets are easily wide enough for two travel lanes plus a bike lane, but instead have one or two rows of parked cars. It's quite common for streets to have two parking lanes, one travel lane, and no bike lanes. Just pull up satellite imagery on Google Maps and it'll all be obvious.

I live and drive here. Parking is virtually non-existent. http://www.opencurb.nyc/ You see the sea of red lines? Those are all places you cannot park.

Looks to me like that map indicates about half of one side of all the steeets are ok for parking?

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If the problem they are trying to solve is "too many vehicles" then we need a congestion tax. They should certainly not be limiting vehicles that are more likely to take multiple people with a Pool option. If the problem they are trying to solve is "drivers aren't making enough" then they should impose a minimum wage on drivers or force an actual employee relationship. If the problem they are trying to solve is a bai…

I think there's a 4th factor which is under looked by your comment and it's that the way in which ride sharing is taking away revenue from the MTA. While this is likely caused by the system constantly being under construction and having delays, removing idling cars from the road would very likely also help with reducing bus traffic (although it's pathetic that NYC hasn't implemented BRT on all major corridors such as they are going to do on 14th street.

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i live in nyc and im glad this is happening. we have a traffic congestion problem here - i dont want more ubers, lyfts or yellow cabs on the street, i want less. i wish nyc would copy london and actually tax people for enter every bridge, tunnel etc in rush hours to stop it. the law of diminishing returns is in full effect here, regardless of what the engineers and SC want to tell themselves.

> i wish nyc would copy london and actually tax people for enter every bridge, tunnel etc in rush hours to stop it. The only toll route I know of anywhere near London is the QE2 crossing, which is outside Greater London. The CCZ (congestion charging zone) covers less than 5% of the Greater London area. There are plans to expand the CCZ, and tackle pollution via an ultra-low-emission-zone. > "The Congestion Charge is…

>>> The CCZ (congestion charging zone) covers less than 5% of the Greater London area.

The "Greater London" is an abusive name to designate the whole region around London, with little relation to the actual city. It should not be used for any comparison.

For comparison, London and Paris are about the same size. Paris is 105 km2 while (The Greater) London is 1500 km2.

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