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Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by PascLeRasc »

jdietrich wrote: post #194
old-gregg wrote: post #66

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> usability gap between OSX and Windows 10 has closed considerably over the past few years. What do you mean? A few examples would be helpful. I am not a frequent Windows user but my impressions, mostly confirmed by seeing other people comment online, is that Windows 7 was the "zenith of Windows UX", with a major step back due to "tabletization" with Windows 8 and partial return to glory with Windows 10. The fact tha…

For the HN crowd, the Linux Subsystem for Windows is kind of a big deal - many traditional Windows annoyances are ameliorated when you've got a Bash shell. Pen input is a) available and b) very good. The split control panel is a bit gross, but it's also a reasonable compromise - novice users get a greatly simplified interface for basic settings, while experienced users keep a familiar interface for more complex confi…

The Windows bash shell would be a lot better if you could interact with files on your normal Windows filesystem, like Desktop and Dropbox, and vice versa with opening files you made in Bash in Atom outside.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by PascLeRasc »

tomphoolery wrote: post #96

I own a 2008 Mac Pro, and High Sierra isn't available for my machine. Why should I buy a new machine if my current one works just fine? Note: I need High Sierra because I use this particular machine for music production, and the latest Logic Pro X requires High Sierra, and all of my collaborators have updated so I can't open tracks originated by them anymore.

This will get you onto High Sierra: http://dosdude1.com/highsierra/

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by lozf »

vinceguidry wrote: post #86
bdcravens wrote: post #54

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I wouldn't call their latest generation of MBPs wonderful. I've had weird video issues with both machines I've had (2016 and 2017 models). Touchbar is a novelty. Initially used TouchID, but haven't for several months now. (using 1Password's browser extension that doesn't support it, and Apple Watch for unlocking the machine). Haven't had the keyboard issues, but I also dock so I rarely use the keyboard. I tried switc…

My main problem with multi-monitor on OSX is little mouse cursor freezes that happen every few seconds while I'm using it. I've searched and found that it had to do with multi-monitor but have yet to find a solution. Compared to this Linux isn't all that bad. Took me a bit to find the magic xrandr invocation that would allow me to manage screen pseudo-brightness sanely. If I can find out the right way to put together…

You might like RedShift instead of f.lux on Linux.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by PascLeRasc »

Patrick_Devine wrote: post #95
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #4

I'm still using the tower version of Mac Pro with High Sierra and it rocks. I upgraded RAM to 32 GB and the Xeon processors handle everything I throw at them. Opening it and changing drives is a pure pleasure. I really, really don't understand why Apple gave up on these towers and came up with something as inflexible as the current design.

I've got a Mac Pro 1,1 which I've been debating about upgrading. Apparently you can new processors and hack around the 32bit EFI bootloader issues. It's a bit of a pain, but seems like a cheap way of getting a faster machine. The bus access is still going to be slow, but for most tasks, it seems pretty reasonable.

I've got one too. X5650s on ebay are about $20 for 2, 16gb of ram was $15, and you can flash it to a 2,1 easily and take it up to El Capitan.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by pokemongoaway »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #80
peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

> I use Linux (and OpenBSD occasionally) these days [...] may be the last un-nerfed general purpose computing platform standing. I really hope you're not right about this, but unfortunately it seems all too likely. Linux will finally win on the desktop not because it finally starts listening to potential users and making things better, but because everyone else just stops making desktops.

All we need for it to start winning is one great proaudio app (like Ableton) and one great provideo suite (like Adobe). Once we get some high spenders running hardware with Linux, that money will transform competition and make Macs better too.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by dep_b »

Jonnax wrote: post #159
old-gregg wrote: post #66

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> usability gap between OSX and Windows 10 has closed considerably over the past few years. What do you mean? A few examples would be helpful. I am not a frequent Windows user but my impressions, mostly confirmed by seeing other people comment online, is that Windows 7 was the "zenith of Windows UX", with a major step back due to "tabletization" with Windows 8 and partial return to glory with Windows 10. The fact tha…

People saying that Windows 7 is some holy grail are not worth listening to when comparing modern systems. The operating system came out 9 years ago. Windows 8 was a massive misstep but they've righted the ship somewhat with 10. There's two control panels bit in each update more functionality moves into the Windows 10 style control panel. The calculator is just a flat styled application not sure why it's rediculus. Bu…

I think under the hood Windows is ahead of macOS. But simple user facing stuff like NSDocument just doesn't exist. Meaning most programs don't return to their state when you reboot, which makes installing updates such a chore since your work is really cut. I had to Google to find the thrash can. Systray icons are not completely killed but very minimized, replaced by nothing. Always alerts and flags that give you a vague sense of something being wrong with your system. Never a clear idea where to find settings. It was already a mess in older versions of Windows like 7, being less crappy than Windows 8 in that sense for me is not really any kind of achievement.

I mean I can work with it, no problem. Especially if you pay me to use it. But the user exists to support the system, not the other way around.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by coaxial »

ageitgey wrote: post #122

I can tell you from experience that building a Hackintosh is a terrible idea for almost all people. I have no moral objection to it and I totally understand the motivation. Apple is completely failing to provide hardware that runs at a fraction of the performance you'd get from building a commodity $2500 AMD/Nvidia desktop even if you give Apple $7000 for a Pro model. Apple's platform especially sucks if you do anyth…

That was my experience as well. And installing an update is a tour de force, every time. Most of the time it goes smoothly but when it blows up, it really does.

This encouraged me even further to run Linux as my daily driver. Without a hackintosh, I might be stuck in overpriced, un-upgradeable Apple land.

Instead, I completely made the switch: got a 300$ fully decked ThinkPad x230 with 16gb ram and an IPS screen, running Ubuntu + i3, and the former hackintosh is now on server duty. I'm finally apple free :)

So I highly recommend hackintoshes as a stepping stone to leaving Apple!

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by dragonshed »

joshmn wrote: post #63

I have a very well-equipped Hackintosh that has been my daily driver for the last 3 years. I've upgraded from Yosemite to El Capitan to Sierra without any issues, even when using the official upgrade method via iTunes. It sleeps, has working Bluetooth; FaceTime works too. It's incredibly stable. I also have a pair of rMBPs. I dual boot with Windows 10 so I can game when I want to. It's all about getting a very compat…

> It's all about getting a very compatible motherboard.

100% agree.

When buying, if one keeps to the specific hardware listed in the buyers guide and golden builds from tonymacx86, that alone should alleviate the majority of issues one could run into when building a hackintosh.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by photojosh »

rozenmd wrote: post #182
photojosh wrote: post #172

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What updates were those? I'm still using a 2013 MBP too and no plans to upgrade. Given that 10.14 is still compatible with 2010 MBPs I think I have more than a few years left with it.

Actually, 10.14 will only support MacBook Pro (Mid-2012 or later) according to: https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/06/05/macos-mojave-will...

I'm an idiot, was muddling up Mojave and High Sierra. Right you are.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by peatmoss »

bauerd wrote: post #72
krylon wrote: post #31

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It's funny, but after four years on macOS, I returned to GNU/Linux about 16 months ago, and I have not looked back since. Okay, there are a few things I miss, but all in all, there was more I missed on macOS than I now miss on GNU/Linux. And I do not consider spending a weekend (or longer) to get my sound chip working fun any more. I am too old for that stuff. Maybe I just have a lucky hand picking hardware, but exce…

Don't you miss the trackpad? It's what keeps me from switching on the hardware side

I really like the Thinkpad’s trackpoint if I must use a portable. If I can use a full,ergonomic desktop, the Logitech Marble Mouse is fantastic and cheap.
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