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I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by tinus_hn »

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

It’s the vocal minority. The people who don’t care and aren’t going to move don’t write angry pieces on social media.

Also remember that many of these writers are the same people who claim they are boycotting the latest company that slighted them as a way to make a statement.

Like the people who are so vocally not buying a phone without their beloved jack plug. Surprisingly the manufacturers aren’t really feeling their sting.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by codinghorror »

skinnymuch wrote: post #179
codinghorror wrote: post #139

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I can't imagine a world where anyone would care about their Reddit account karma. I periodically destroy any Reddit account I have to use as a matter of online hygiene. (and yes, I destroyed the account I did an AMA on a while back as well.)

Come on. You have to know some people care about their karma. Reddit being one of the biggest sites in the world makes that fraction of people quite a large number.

I wouldn't say I care about it on HN but it is a site topic (programming) that is relevant to my career, so it aligns with my interests. Reddit is just.. irrelevant.. to basically everything. It's fine for entertainment at best.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by vkbandi »

pera wrote: post #131
gowld wrote: post #114

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FYI, Nat Friedman, co-founder of GNOME, is now the Microsoft employee who is the CEO of GitHub.

I believe you are mistaking Miguel de Icaza with Nat Friedman (probably because of Ximian).

Isn't Miguel de Icaza also with Microsoft now ?

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by johannes1234321 »

lucb1e wrote: post #145
johannes1234321 wrote: post #61

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Making it open source doesn't mean anybody could use it in a proper manner - I guess it's a ton of services which need a lot of setup and management as it's purposely build to support a few million repos and users.

Yes, but consider the scenario. Microsoft, acquiring a company, then open sourcing it, and still maintaining/building on it. If that happens, I'd be very much amazed and that would go a very long way towards making me stay (or, by then, move back). For me, open source is both practical and ideological.

Well, guess they will - over time - integrate more and more with Azure services, where they can. Thus open sourcing GitHub will still tie it to Azure and I don't see Microsoft OpeSourcing much of their Azure services ;) (GitHub however open sourced stuff like Orchestrator to manage MySQL replication setups etc. which are key parts of their environment)

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Post by inks »

gaius wrote: post #115
irq11 wrote: post #99

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They’ve taken a big pile of VC funding, so the answer to your first question is yes. Meanwhile, the biggest player (by far) in the market just abandoned dreams of an IPO. Gitlab is a distant third place in that market, and has a revenue model that is best described as “like Github, but cheaper.” IPOs are only viable if you have a business capable of supporting them.

There are only two possibilities I see: acquired by Atlassian and merged with Bitbucket, or by a low-tier cloud player with deep pockets such as Aliyun or Oracle. The IPO market just isn’t that buoyant at the moment.

Oracle has been looking at GitLab since the Microsoft acquisition of GitHub.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by IncRnd »

cjbprime wrote: post #189
IncRnd wrote: post #101

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> Microsoft bought GitHub for over seven billion dollars. You don't buy something for that kind of cash unless it has that kind of value. That is NOT what happened. Microsoft is in the process of purchasing GitHub, which likely won't happen before the end of the year. The agreed price was $7.5B in stock not cash.

.. why is this distinction significant?

I made two distinctions.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by sdesol »

superflyguy wrote: post #199
sdesol wrote: post #53

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Yeah I really think people are trying to read way too much into things. The only true bellwether in my opinion, are influential open source projects leaving GitHub for something else, like self hosting with GitLab/Bitbucket/etc. If nodejs, google, and other big names/organizations decides to leave, then I think it is time for Microsoft to worry.

Gnome, Debian and gimp have all left.

Were they ever hosted on GitHub?

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by YorickPeterse »

the-dude wrote: post #124
YorickPeterse wrote: post #117

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Out of the 250 000-ish projects that migrated to GitLab.com, only about 3000 are mirrors (= using GitLab's mirroring feature). Source: I work for GitLab.

But did they close their Github account?

That's something we don't have any data on.
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