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Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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https://www.ascb.org/newsletter/novemberdecember-2016-newsle...

"This money is effectively a surcharge, or tax, on scientific research imposed not by a government but by a for-profit industry. Imagine for a moment how much research could be carried out using these resources if they were channeled back into our academic enterprise."

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Piracy has one USP that the competition lacks that is very hard for them to replicate: convenience.

Is BitTorrent more convenient than Netflix?

Depends on what you want to see. If Netflix has it in your country in your language of choice: Netflix wins, else BitTorrent wins.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Not being in a scientific field, one of the previous times this came up I asked if any of the working scientists felt like SciHub had positively impacted their work: exposing them to more papers than they would have read, guiding them in different ways, etc. and the answer was a pretty overwhelming "ohmygodyes". From the outside, it's very difficult to see this as anything but a public good. It certainly seems like l…

I have access to most papers through my university, but every now and then a pubmed or google scholar search leads me to a paper I cannot access easily. For those, instead of waiting for interlibrary loan I can easily just grab the article through SciHub.

Is it right? I don't know. But it makes my life so much easier when looking for something specific.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Piracy has one USP that the competition lacks that is very hard for them to replicate: convenience.

Is BitTorrent more convenient than Netflix?

Torrents are very inconvenient compared to many streaming services.

Therefore, you would expect most people to opt for Netflix. (And by and large I'd expect Netflix to be more popular in mass than tormenting at this point for places where it's available.)

But what if it's not available where you live (That's inconvenient), doesn't have the content you want (That's inconvenient), or you want a file you can play offline that isn't allowed to be downloaded on the Netflix app?

Convenience wins almost every time, but not having the option to do something (be it for lack of $$$ or availability) isn't convenient so that's when more people turn to piracy.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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That’s the same excuse that’s trotted out in every field with a piracy problem—up until someone finds a way to do it and it turns out it wasn’t an insurmountable problem after all. That’s how we got iTunes, Spotify, Steam, Netflix, and so on.

It's not really an excuse - it truly is convenient in such a way that you only have to go to one place to get the thing you want. If I want Man in the High Castle, I have to pay for Amazon. But if I want Ozark, I need to pay for Netflix. If I want to watch Metropolis, or The Raven, or The Maltese Falcon, they're old and not any streaming service, even if the rights are owned by a studio. Where can I find them? Yup, b…

The selection of movies on Netflix is beyond dismal. If it's not from the last 15 years, your chances of finding it are virtually nil. If it is from the last 15 years, your chances are merely terrible. The demise of video stores has left me with no idea how I'd (legally) watch an old movie short of purchasing the DVD. Strange that widespread access to classic movies only lasted about 20 years -- from the mid '80s to the mid '00s.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

#206

As a former scientist, and researching during the 90s, the publishing system that has arisen where a company can monopolise it, and by that, prevent access, is very unfortunate. No scientist wants their work to be unseen and hidden behind a paywall, but that is what has happened. Worse still, in some fields amateurs can make a reasonable contribution to the field (my experience is observation astronomy), and the curr…

Researcher at a small company here (eg: SBIR work). I can't even tell you how many hours I've wasted looking for access to papers. Can't exactly use something like Sci Hub at work. But once I do find articles, usually with the help of a local university, I am able to do a lot more work. But combine the normal problem of having to run through many papers and add the inability to see beyond an abstract easily.

Open access greatly helps the small researchers. The big guys can already buy access.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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There is a huge difference between Steam and Elsevier and I'm not sure why you feel the one is an example of how the other could evolve. The one sells games for entertainment purposes to the masses, the other sells subscriptions to scientific institutions to give them access to research papers. It's b2c vs b2b and a competitive space versus a captive audience.

I'm only trying to refute the claim that "piracy has one USP that the competition lacks that is very hard for them to replicate: convenience". That's disproven by the fact that many companies e.g. Steam have had undeniable success on the back of that convenience.

I think that claim was made in the context of scientific papers, where there is no counterpart to Steam or Netflix.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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A major reason, unfortunately, is that they don't want to be interfering with the distribution of scientific articles. For example, if there's a very well-read journal in a specific discipline, but whose contents are only visible with a subscription, then if one countries prevents its researchers from publishing in those journals, research by that country's researchers will be less read. And the reason they do not wa…

Eh, I think you're stretching in your interpretation of the causes of our current science publishing climate. As a current researcher, and former scientific publisher, I think most authors are interested in hitting certain "target" journals, it's a discussion that comes up early on in the research process. They want the right topic audience to read their work, and they want to publish in the highest impact factor jou…

> I believe countries are mostly unaware of this problem

Yes, that's what I was referring to in my ellipsis.

> To me, the problem is that scientists are highly motivated to achieve successes in publishing and prestige and impact, and they are less likely to stand in front of governments and demand open-access and freely circulated articles. This is not in their best interest

I agree that that is a crucial link in the vicious cycle that upholds the current system - I was merely giving a view in the motivations of why even the funders who are aware of the problem are not mandating Open Access without extra costs.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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I wouldn't state "voluntary" too strongly: https://medium.com/flockademic/the-ridiculous-number-that-ca... Sure, I can offer you the choice between death or a slap in the face, but if you'd choose the slap in the face, I wouldn't say you voluntarily asked for the slap in the face...

That dichotomy would only make sense if there were no means to self-publish or choosing a non-paywalled journal.

Well, those means are there (most of the time), but if researchers want a career in academia, most of the time there's no other option than submitting their work to "high impact" journals. I don't think sacrificing their already slim career choices is a reasonable sacrifice to ask when speaking of voluntarism.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Piracy has one USP that the competition lacks that is very hard for them to replicate: convenience.

Is BitTorrent more convenient than Netflix?

No but there are piracy streaming apps that are more convenient than netflix.
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