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Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

#202
I don't know if this is on topic but I switched to Ubuntu 18.04 recently and ran into this fairly annoying bug [1]. Installing curl installs libcurl4, which then uninstalls any applications you have that have a dependency on libcurl3 (which turns out to be Slack, Virtualbox, and some others). They really need to figure out how to allow libcurl4 and libcurl3 to live side-by-side if that's possible.

Responses from ubuntu folks on that bug ticket have just been "Those packages are not official ubuntu packages so we can't do anything"

1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Devuan and Mint do a decent job shipping gnome 2 style environments by default. As far as I know, Gnome 2 is the last example of a Linux desktop environment that underwent professional usability testing (on regular people and power users) before shipping. Personally, these days, I prefer minimalist WM’s and CLI administration tools for stuff like WiFi, but all the newer heavy DE’s I’ve tried have obvious (to me) usab…

"Devuan and Mint do a decent job shipping gnome 2 style environments by default." I've been very, very impressed with the MATE desktop. It's actually GNOME 2, carefully upgraded to GTK 3, then with a sensible set of improvements. It's available on most distributions, but the lead developer is also the lead for Ubuntu MATE.

MATE does exactly what I need it to do without getting in the way, one thing GNOME 3 and Unity could never claim to do.

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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I've been skipping all the Unity drama by staying on Xubuntu which is really snappy and stays out of your way. Also, Gnome on this laptop (Dell Inspiron 15 7000) gave me (and several others users, as per forum post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2358975 and some bug reports I found on the internet) a freeze or stutter every 10 or so seconds. So instead of having to start debugging shit from a fresh Linux i…

Love Xubuntu! Just want to mention there's also an Xfce flavor of Mint for any Mint fans: https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=249

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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I picked up a (very) cheap Acer Spin 1 as a dedicated machine for embedded development. 250 euros. Meant for Windows 10, but unusable for that with its 32GB of eMMC.

With a bit of effort installed Ubuntu 18.04 on it. Works great! Wifi, touch pad, even the touch screen and orientation all work out of the box. No messy driver configuration.

I did replace gnome with Unity (an `apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop` away), because it performs tons and tons better than gnome and with a 1.25 scale makes the 11" 1080P screen much more usable. Amazing how much computing you can get for this price...!

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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post #76
post #23

I've been skipping all the Unity drama by staying on Xubuntu which is really snappy and stays out of your way. Also, Gnome on this laptop (Dell Inspiron 15 7000) gave me (and several others users, as per forum post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2358975 and some bug reports I found on the internet) a freeze or stutter every 10 or so seconds. So instead of having to start debugging shit from a fresh Linux i…

I have been using XFCE for 5 or 6 years, the _best_ thing about it are it's developers, they don't keep updating it. XFCE avoids the plague which affects rest of the software industry (me included) - dedicate design, marketing, and development teams who constantly have to add something to justify their jobs and bonuses. Look at the number of app updates on mobile phones, every freaking week there is a update availabl…

that's one good thing about opensource software that is not sponsored by corporations, they don't need to waste money just because they have a bunch of engineers on their payrolls

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

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post #23

I've been skipping all the Unity drama by staying on Xubuntu which is really snappy and stays out of your way. Also, Gnome on this laptop (Dell Inspiron 15 7000) gave me (and several others users, as per forum post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2358975 and some bug reports I found on the internet) a freeze or stutter every 10 or so seconds. So instead of having to start debugging shit from a fresh Linux i…

Does XFCE suffer with the Gnome3 affliction of having a top menu bar and a program menu bar underneath? I am left looking through a letter box at my software. Unity was good at this...Gnome3 is not

You can y remove it in gnome too https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should the desktop metaphor be constrained to “just a folder with a background set to grid view” though? Phones are already far ahead of most desktops by having widgets. Perhaps we’ll see innovation in the area of desktop UIs from Gnome when they get the next generation in place.

Was Microsoft ahead of its time with Active Desktop?

Yes...

Re: Ubuntu 18.04: Unity is gone, Gnome is back, and Ubuntu has never been better

#210
It would have appreciated the software updater telling me that that I won't be upgraded because I'm on the previous LTS instead of insisting that there aren't any upgrades available - this while I'm reading the release notes from Ubuntu. Bonus points for allowing me to upgrade anyway without resorting to the terminal.

From https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubu...:

If no upgrade appears

As mentioned in the Ubuntu wiki, upgrades from 17.10 will not be enabled until a few days after the release of 18.04 and upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the release of 18.04.1, expected in late July 2018.

You can force the upgrade, however, with the following steps:

    close Update Manager if it's still running
    open a terminal in the same way you opened Update Manager
    type update-manager -d and press enter
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