Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App • Hacker News Board

Re: Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App

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Post by acct1771 » Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 1:44 AM UTC

subway wrote: post #108

mindB wrote: post #58

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The E2EE in matrix is actually based on the double ratchet from the Signal protocol. So you could think of the E2E in matrix as just a federated version of Signal. :)

A point in moxie's favor is that the e2ee ux in matrix is currently extremely painful. I'm willing to use it on a couple rooms that consist entirely of geeks, but don't want to subject non-geeks to the whole verification process.

Why do your non-geek friends have to verify? None of mine do.

Re: Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App

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Post by fghtr » Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 12:41 PM UTC

slipmagic wrote: post #194

jhasse wrote: post #193

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Telegram's clients are open source.

And the crypto is done client-side.

...unless you are using GNU/Linux (there are no 'secret chats' here).

Re: Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App

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Post by Uberphallus » Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 4:05 PM UTC

rjsw wrote: post #168

Uberphallus wrote: post #116

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I can't even download FPGA toolchains like a regular person without an account saying I live in the US and a US VPN to support my claim. FPGAs still accounted as ammo, even if you get the dev boards from China. I'm looking at you, Xilinx.

I don't live in the US and downloaded the latest Xilinx tools earlier this week, don't work for a US company either.

It's a hit or miss, and sometimes accounts get "flagged". From France I didn't have a problem until I connected from Ukraine; since then I have to always fill the infamous "download workaround form" that may or may not succeed, in the best case you get the download link in an email a few days later. Also the download workaround form doesn't let you select the most recent versions of Vivado and ISE.

Re: Matrix and Riot Confirmed as the Basis for France’s Secure Instant Messenger App

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Post by walkingdog » Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 10:04 PM UTC

hello i am new here and a noob. But this application messenger is only maked for France government use or also for everbody people around the world?

thereby, Riot is developed by the france government. Big change it has a back-door or something. you cant trust it as a citizen. correct me if i wrong but this sound like a honey pot to me.