I received the Flickr announcement email 11 times. Am I the only one?
I'm at 60 now. Looks like something went wrong there...
Smugmug Acquires Flickr
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#202I hope that they might consider incorporating some of what made PhotoSIG so enjoyable. One thing in particular was the ability to search for community photos by lens type, camera type, film type, location, etc. I know you can do this with search engines and to some extent in flicker, but I like the way it was implemented there.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a quick look over their pricing plans, and they actually seem pretty fair to me. $48 per year to store all of your photos on the basic paid tier, and all the other tiers seemed aimed at people that are either enthusiasts or professionals, eg people who want to have their own domain. The old adage of "you kind of get what you pay for" seems to apply.
In this day and age using your own domain adds no cost aside from the domain itself.
I suspect that using your own domain for large volumes of photos still adds significant indirect time and energy cost of fiddling around with separate front end and mass storage backend. A bunch of time spent tweaking to keep full images and smaller versions organized and quick while not paying a premium for storage is a cost, and those hours have value.
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#204On the one hand, I'm happy that Flickr will stay alive but on the other, I'm worried about what Smugmug will do to it regarding policy. Smugmug's Acceptable Use Policy [0] is rather puritan, forbidding things that are "indecent", "lewd", "sexually suggestive" or anything else that "in the sole judgment of SmugMug, is objectionable, harmful". Flickr's [1] on the other hand is rather accepting: "If you would hesitate t…
Is it ideals or is it market placement? If they're staying separate then I imagine maximum market coverage means having a split where they maintain the family friendly visage of SmugMug and they keep the wide gamut of photography on Flickr.
Unfortunately I discovered this isn't the case. I contacted SmugMug support and they've already decided all Flickr users will be subject to SmugMug's policies as of May 25th. Existing Flickr content that satisfied Flickr's policies can be removed for SmugMug policy violations.
This is destructive and makes me sad for Flickr's future.
I just hope they don't decide to mass delete everything with a content filter applied, since in theory all that content violates their new policy.
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#205Finally Flickr will no longer be the neglected stepchild of a corporate parent and will receive some much needed love. Even though a lot of time has passed I'm optimistic that Flickr has a real chance to reassert its domination of online pictures.
Flickr has one really useful feature that I've used a lot: easy searching for public domain imagery. It's great that you can dial in whichever level of CC licensing you want and then grab some photos for marketing or wireframing. Also handy for machine learning!
"It's great that you can dial in whichever level of CC licensing you want and then grab some photos for marketing or wireframing."
A friend used a site that had those sorts of free use licenses, and then got hit by the Getty lawyers: It turned out that someone was just taking stock images and posting them on their own account with a gratis license, which of course does nothing to excuse the people trusting it in faith.
Not sure how to solve that problem.
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#206This is exciting! I've long believed that Flickr should have doubled down on their existing users instead of trying to become another Instagram. Over on the USA Today article[0], there's this line: A longtime fan of Flickr, MacAskill says before making any decisions, he plans to collect feedback from employees and users. Hey Don - I used to pay money for Flickr, and I'm happy to start paying again if there is evidenc…
Seconded. I currently pay for Dropbox solely to store RAW files. Would pay Flickr instead if this was offered.
I currently pay for Dropbox solely to store RAW files.
If you're under 1TB (on a personal/professional account), you might also test whether Onedrive would work for you - particularly if you're on Windows 10 where Files On-demand is now integrated into the OS.
If nothing else, the bulk storage cost of Onedrive is somewhere around half the cost of Dropbox.
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#207I have an account, but never really used it. Give me this and I sign up for a paid account: * RAW storage for Fuji cameras * ad-free * no shenanigans where you try to own or sell my photos * privacy * acceptable price (hobbyist range, not pro photog) I‘m indifferent about: * video storage * a store to sell my photos * a service to print my photos I‘d consider a huge selling point: * some kind of ECC for photos, to fi…
Out of curiosity... Why Fuji? Is there any specific thing about those RAW files or just your use case?
Yes, it‘s my use case. Some services only cater to Nikon and Canon as the two dominant players and their RAW format.
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#208I have always loved flickr, and always worrried investor or wall street pressure would ruin it by causing it to censor more. Flickr has been able to keep naughty pics and groups and made mini social network groups that don't require real names. It's a little known bastion of the old net in some ways. Now that oauth is pushing these logging / sharing terms updates, I am glad they are getting rid of flickr. I just hope…
I believe elsewhere in the thread someone stated that SmugMug's terms (including on content) would also apply to Flickr starting in late May, so that's something to look into.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don here, thanks so much for the vote of confidence. Big job ahead of us, but the community is the reason we did this. We want to invest, innovate and grow there. We'll be working hard. But first I have a lot of learning to do. Stay tuned.
Don— I was a paying customer too. Then Flickr changed their login, forcing me to get a yahoo account, which I then lost over time. So for years now, my account, and all the photos of my 1-3yo kid are buried and locked behind the “you need (login) and pay premium access to see all your photos”. All because that stupid yahoo login integration. Unrecoverable.
Me too! I used to be a paying customer (in 2005-2006 I think) and then when the login procedure changed to Yahoo, I could never figure out how it worked. I just stopped using it.
I never lost any image and I'm now a happy Smugmug user/customer (ha!), so I don't really care about that anymore -- but yes, the login process is important! Many users would rather change shop than put up with crazy login procedures.
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#210Sounds like fantastic news... though that landing page makes me concerned about the web perf of smugmug in general :\ abysmal scrolling on chrome and firefox. Flickr has generally been stable on things like that, at least from what I've experienced.
I assume the app / site are generally better than this?