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Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by the_grue »

Sylos wrote: post #195
the_grue wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why you are being downvoted. I have the same problem. I'm still stuck with Firefox 56 and no upgrade path in sight. I wish Mozilla declared FF 56 a LTS release for those of us who value their addons more than performance benefits of Quantum. Right now I'm still using an out-of-date release that doesn't receive critical security updates, and I have to choose between either downgrading 4 releases down to F…

He's being downvoted because of his choice of wording. It's perfectly legitimate to prefer Firefox prior to Firefox 57. It's not legitimate to: - act like Mozilla just killed their extensions lightly. They gave lots of warning in advance and took many extra steps to ease the transition. They also had lots of really good reasons for doing it. - blame Mozilla for marketing things based on what their market looks like.…

Well, he's upset. After all, when you support a project for years, you convince your friends to switch, participate in the community, maybe write some extensions, and then it removes one of the main reasons you have ever been using it, you get upset. It's understandable... I used to have strong feelings about it as well. You say that Mozilla didn't kill their extensions lightly, etc. But still they didn't think to make 56 a LTS release to allow us a breathing space of at least a year of security updates until we decide what to do next. Going 4 releases back for someone who's used to be on the bleeding edge is quite daunting.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by the_grue »

robinhood wrote: post #193
the_grue wrote: post #67

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I don't know why you are being downvoted. I have the same problem. I'm still stuck with Firefox 56 and no upgrade path in sight. I wish Mozilla declared FF 56 a LTS release for those of us who value their addons more than performance benefits of Quantum. Right now I'm still using an out-of-date release that doesn't receive critical security updates, and I have to choose between either downgrading 4 releases down to F…

Maintaining a LTS release while focusing on an entirely new technology with a limited number of devs available is an engineering nightmare. They have to choose their battles. The performance of the old Firefox was really bad compared to competitors and this technical debt wasn't sustainable on the long term. I'm happy that they've made this bold move (on the big risk of frustrating some users (rightfully so)), and ha…

They are already maintaining FF 52 LTS (actually, in Mozilla terminology it's called ESR) They should've calculated this in advance and made FF 56 LTS. They could still do it now if they wanted...

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by Something1234 »

dao- wrote: post #129
Something1234 wrote: post #111

Is allow client side decorations available yet in about:config? It was in a fedora release about 2 months ago, and it was removed because it wasn't in mainline. I have the title bar disabled for now, but that's broken in it's own way(dragging doesn't work right).

No, it wasn't ready: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1440461 Should be part of Firefox 60.

That's a shame. Client side decoration seemed ready when it was enabled on Fedora.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by ams6110 »

davvolun wrote: post #200
ams6110 wrote: post #185

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Only thing I've found is that hitting ALT-Home keys in the new tab will load the home page. But it's one of those tiny repeated annoyances that I'd love to avoid.

I can't really comment fairly here as I've gotten used to Chrome for the last 2+ years, but is there really not an extension in Firefox for this, even if it's not natively supported? Seems surprising to me.

Yes there are, but for some reason using a local file is a problem. Something about the ability of WebExtension to access a local file. Probably sensible, but in this case annoying.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by bzbarsky »

Tepix wrote: post #198
bzbarsky wrote: post #96

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No, I posted it in the right place. Tepix subsequently edited his/her comment, as far as I can tell. The comment I was replying to, about "mousewheel" events, is certainly no longer in evidence.

Sorry about that, i changed my comment because it was obsolete and i could no longer delete it.

Next time it might make sense to make it clear that the comment was edited and how... ;)

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by frio »

ams6110 wrote: post #174
ChrisSD wrote: post #24

It's great that they're continuing to add back customisation to the new tab page but why am I still restricted to two rows of "top sites"? I'm on a desktop here, I'm not going to run out of pixels. Even on Android I liked having more space for quick links to websites I visit semi-regularly. In fact it was more useful there because there isn't a good way to bring order to the history panel. Is it just to make room for…

And why can't I have my home page as my new tab page? I don't want any of that "top sites" BS on a new tab, I want the local HTML file that I created as my home page. Why not allow it for new tabs?

Given the existence of things like momentum (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/momentumdash/), I'd suggest maybe looking into packaging your HTML page into a web extension :).

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by odabaxok »

jgruen wrote: post #108
odabaxok wrote: post #17

A little OT, but how can I enable/use the Screenshots feature? I cannot find it.

Hey, Screenshots person here...this is a new one to me. My only thoughts would be the pref flip that seems to be ruled out at this point, or that you're trying to shoot an about:[SOMETHING] page for which we disable screenshots. Otherwise, file an issue: https://github.com/mozilla-services/screenshots/issues We're triaging in an hour or so :)

Thanks and done: https://github.com/mozilla-services/screenshots/issues/4220

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by bzbarsky »

driverdan wrote: post #145
bzbarsky wrote: post #142

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Note that the definition of "Block 3rd party cookies" in Safari is different from the one in Firefox (not sure about Chrome). Firefox blocks a lot more stuff when that option is enabled in Firefox than Safari does when its option is enabled, which causes more web compat problems.

Blocking 3rd party cookies causes very few problems. I've blocked them for many years and have seen fewer than 10 sites it caused problems with. For those you can whitelist the domain.

It really depends. I, too, have been blocking them for years, with few problems. But other people run into problems more often. It really depends on the sites one uses.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by analogic »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #121
Piskvorrr wrote: post #7

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Sites have been replacing the actual API request with a HTML5 overlay, precisely because of this - only when clicking "notify me" does the actual permission get requested, with the requisite dialog. (The rationale is "once the permission is denied, there's no way to bring it up again; a dismissed HTML5 box can be brought up again an infinite number of times") As for me, I went for WebAPI Manager, which blocks most of…

Same dark pattern as phone apps that ask for permission with their own dialog then bring up real one or ones that ask for a rating but only send you to real app store rating system if you'll rate them highly.

Been trying to decide whether to do this myself, this really a dark pattern?

We're not asking until until they try to use the feature that requires location, but are using the additional pop-up. Rationale being that they probably want to allow it or they wouldnt be using app, and making it so they dont mistakenly deny and have to mess with setting is really more of a convenience.

But ya it does seem to go against the OS defined behavior.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by anotherevan »

ams6110 wrote: post #174
ChrisSD wrote: post #24

It's great that they're continuing to add back customisation to the new tab page but why am I still restricted to two rows of "top sites"? I'm on a desktop here, I'm not going to run out of pixels. Even on Android I liked having more space for quick links to websites I visit semi-regularly. In fact it was more useful there because there isn't a good way to bring order to the history panel. Is it just to make room for…

And why can't I have my home page as my new tab page? I don't want any of that "top sites" BS on a new tab, I want the local HTML file that I created as my home page. Why not allow it for new tabs?

New Tab Override should do the trick for you. I agree that it should be a built in though.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-overr...

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