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Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #156

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> If, in their search page, they had a button that said "I am looking to buy" or something along those lines It seems that you are describing Google Shopping.

Really? Never heard of it.

Its former product name was Froogle.

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #146

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That's a valid concern, but it's also a very obvious one, and Google already being in the crosshairs of regulators will certainly be aware of it. They are clearly prepared to counter any such allegation in two ways. 1) It's not Google alone setting the standard. The "coalition for better ads" also includes Facebook, Microsoft and many others: https://www.betterads.org/members/ 2) The rules are few and reasonably simp…

The coalition of marketing giants. I'm sure they're only thinking of us and what's best for us when setting their "standards".

The point is that they are Google's major competitors.

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #116
post #29

To have an ad network control so much of web traffic and then decide which ads to block is just absurd. If the chrome team and google’s ad teams were not controlled by the same unit that primarily makes money from ads it would have been ok, but given that they do, what incentive will they have to block their own ads and how much more powerful is it making their own network? Sadly, chrome is still the easiest browser…

In your opinion, would spinning off Chrome into its own company under Alphabet be a possible solution?

No, because Alphabet is still Google. A layer of shell companies doesn't change anything. Chrome (and Android, probably) should be forcibly split off from anything to do with Google/Alphabet, as fully independent companies. Any collusion between them and Google should be illegal.

^- This is breaking up an illegal monopoly. Shuffling around which division owned by Larry Page and Sergey Brin it is is not.

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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It seems a lot of people here work for shady ad networks whose bonus will be cut this year. It's not only "Google", it's Coalition for Better Ads. There top competitors' are all part of it. It's still a lot better for my elderly folks who can't seem to figure out how to install ublock.

Google loves to claim something is administered by a "coalition" or "alliance". But that isn't how it works internally.

Remember the "Open Handset Alliance"? The industry group of companies which used Android? Well, Google threatened to remove Acer from it if Acer dared to release a phone without Google Apps on it. This was never a mutual organization, it was a Google-run organization.

"Alliances" and "coalitions" are the tools which Google uses to tame the companies they've more or less taken control of.

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #89

I think there's good intentions by Google here. That said, let's talk about the worst-case scenario, the thing that Google could actually do that is entirely anti-competitive. Step 1: Google finds a large number of competitors who are doing pretty well playing by their rules. Google finds some trait they all have in common. Google then modifies their own ads to not have that trait. Step 2: Google declares the given t…

If there were good intentions by Google here, it would block all ads, including Google’s.

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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When I interviewed at Facebook almost every person I talked to said "if Google blocks ads by default Facebook will sue them" so I expect to see a lawsuit eventually

Out of interest how long ago was this? Asking because: "Mobile advertising revenue is reported and according to Facebook, it represented approximately 88 percent of advertising revenue for Q3 2017 up from 84 percent in Q3 2016." https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-statistics/ Facebook seem to have done an incredibly good job of reducing their exposure to the browser. That comes at the cost of exposure to An…

December 2017

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #57

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Two things about ads. They don't seek to inform you so much as they seek to inform you that something exists whilst manipulating your emotions to get a particular reaction out of you and millions of other people. This is particularly blatant in AV ads. The other thing, mainly regarding software ads, is they don't seek to inform you so much as manipulate you whilst tracking your every move to guarantee that the ad was…

Just curious--when you say "AV ads," do you mean antivirus ads or audio/visual ads?

Apologies, I was using the acronym for Audio/Video and assumed it would be understood from context, but I could have been more clear.

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #89

I think there's good intentions by Google here. That said, let's talk about the worst-case scenario, the thing that Google could actually do that is entirely anti-competitive. Step 1: Google finds a large number of competitors who are doing pretty well playing by their rules. Google finds some trait they all have in common. Google then modifies their own ads to not have that trait. Step 2: Google declares the given t…

If there were good intentions by Google here, it would block all ads, including Google’s.

Chrome will block all ads, including Google's, on sites that are deemed to be serving "bad ads".

Re: How Google Chrome’s ad blocker works

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post #89

I think there's good intentions by Google here. That said, let's talk about the worst-case scenario, the thing that Google could actually do that is entirely anti-competitive. Step 1: Google finds a large number of competitors who are doing pretty well playing by their rules. Google finds some trait they all have in common. Google then modifies their own ads to not have that trait. Step 2: Google declares the given t…

They just want people to watch the ads man. That's their only intention.
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