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BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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If you trade it for bitcoin someone is selling you that bitcoin for tether. That person will go ahead and trade that tether for some other coin.... rinse repeat, but in the end someone is holding that Tether, if exchanges stop accepting tether eventually your only option is to cash out to USD. USDT is basically being used as a trade coin, to avoid cashing out (maybe to avoid taxation) or to speculate on USD with the…

I keep trying to wrap my head around the economics of this and maybe give Tether the benefit of doubt. I think the most damning technical detail is that there is no client-side wallet. We can't trade Tether amongst ourselves or engage in any trades that Tether doesn't have at least indirect control of.

The most damning thing for me is that none of the many exchanges trading tethers allow you to trade them for US dollars. The only way to cash out of tether now is to buy cryptocoins and transfer them to a non-tether exchange.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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maybe all the posts below are fake. i hope they are. kinda sad how many people were fooled into this so easily. https://twitter.com/francispouliot_/status/95346257940123238...

The chicken nuggets one is likely fake. That is an old meme / copypasta.

Dunno about the rest.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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For those unaware, Bitconnect was a Bitcoin-based ponzi-scheme that had operated 'successfully' for quite some time. I don't say 'ponzi' as an insult in the way some do for cryptocurrencies, it was quite literally just a bare-bones ponzi scheme, where you deposit your money (Bitcoin) on their website, buy their token, 'lock' your funds for some amount of time, and you are promised very high interest rates while encou…

> Many famous Youtubers and other individuals with influence convinced hundreds of people to put their money into BitConnect in order to profit off of referrals

One of the Youtubers, Cryptonick said clearly on his Youtube account that he was 17 years old.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7r0ftz/cryp...

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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People love to think they're smarter than those 'experts'. It's a combination of Tall Poppy Syndrome [1] and the Dunning-Kruger Effect [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

You can add to that that "experts" are pretty clueless as well, 2000 and 2008 are reminders of that. Close to none saw it coming and the ones that did where laughing stock amongst them, you have to be a pretty remarkable person to swim against National bank presidents, government officials and other high ranking people like Alan Greenspan, that was a super respected economist but also has made some of the worst mista…

You don't need to be an expert to foresee the collapse of a Ponzi scheme.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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post #5

For those unaware, Bitconnect was a Bitcoin-based ponzi-scheme that had operated 'successfully' for quite some time. I don't say 'ponzi' as an insult in the way some do for cryptocurrencies, it was quite literally just a bare-bones ponzi scheme, where you deposit your money (Bitcoin) on their website, buy their token, 'lock' your funds for some amount of time, and you are promised very high interest rates while encou…

I know a few people who fell for this, despite my warnings. When you tell someone "these returns are astronomical, teams of PhDs in hedge funds cannot come anywhere close, do you think they're so dumb that they wouldn't put billions in this if it were legitimate" and they reply "yes, I do", there's no helping them.

Not that the "teams of PhDs in hedge funds" are all that, mind - http://www.aei.org/publication/warren-buffett-wins-1m-bet-ma...

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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bitcoin: a tool for teaching libertarians the reasons we created regulations at high speed

Bitcoin is a tool for liberating people from the ruling elites and the oppression of crony capitalism.

How?

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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Tether just hit a new all time high of $1.07, making the return on investment significantly better than most VC funds.

Isn't the entire point of it to be pegged 1USDT === 1USD? Obviously it fails at that by being backed by nothing like enough USD, but what does it being worth $1.07 even mean? Also, where do you sell Tethers given Bitfinex won't exchange them for USD?

doesn't the fact that its trading at 1.07 mean that tether doesn't have easy access to USD or an easy way to exploit the arbitrage. tether as a company can take USD and print tethers. so they could take USD $100, print 100 tethers, exchange them for USD $107 and walk away with $7 profit. i don't think people would even be mad if they did this. this is exactly what they should be doing to preserve the peg.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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I know a few people who fell for this, despite my warnings. When you tell someone "these returns are astronomical, teams of PhDs in hedge funds cannot come anywhere close, do you think they're so dumb that they wouldn't put billions in this if it were legitimate" and they reply "yes, I do", there's no helping them.

Not that the "teams of PhDs in hedge funds" are all that, mind - http://www.aei.org/publication/warren-buffett-wins-1m-bet-ma...

Yes, but I was afraid that saying "even a basket of the 500 top securities can't come close to that, do you think the basket is so dumb that it wouldn't just put its money into BitConnect" wouldn't have the same impact :P

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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One scam down at least, next the Tether printer and BitFinex boys. Clean up in aisle HKG please.

Tether just hit a new all time high of $1.07, making the return on investment significantly better than most VC funds.

I continue to be astounded that the BitFinex boys haven't been locked up for the blatant fraud they've committed. If the feds don't get them, the Russian mobsters will.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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I'm by no means an expert, but I'm wondering why the people responsible behind Tether do this? Why don't they ask people for a dollar for each Tether coin and then store those dollars indefinitely, wouldn't that guarantee that the currency is pegged? They would always be able to exchange the Tether back to a dollar.

It turns out to be a lot more profitable if you just make USDT out of thin air...

It also drives the price of BTC up if you use those imaginary USDT to wash trade BTC. This is beyond a shitshow.
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