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Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by astura »

dvt wrote: post #60
cycrutchfield wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well TIL that I have been “intermittent fasting” for my entire adult life. Edit: your linked article is a study on rats which intermittently fasted for periods of 24-48 hours. That is a very far cry from what you have described.

> Well TIL that I have been “intermittent fasting” for my entire adult life. If you snack at night or until midnight (or drink any sugary drinks at night), as many casually do, no you haven't. You'd need to make sure that calories are completely restricted when the feeding window closes. Check out this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8238506 done on adult men -- with that said, IF hasn't been studied much.…

That's a pretty huge assumption, I've never snacked at night and I can't understand why anyone would.

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Post by fillskills »

lwansbrough wrote: post #98

I have pretty mild IBS symptoms, but I concur - exercising at the very least has helped regulate my gut. At least to the extent that I can live a normal life without having to be constantly aware of the nearest bathroom. Can’t recommend regular exercise enough to those experiencing similar issues. Running would be my recommendation. I wonder if the rhythm of exercise is partially responsible.

I have IBS too. I highly recommend taking probiotic regularly. This one specially helped me: Ultimate Flora Critical Care. Just make sure you buy them from a place that keeps them refrigerated.

Also try to eat lots of non processed food like salads etc. They add to the bacterial layer.

Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by meuk »

erkkie wrote: post #194
meuk wrote: post #158

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I object to pointing to 'added sugars' as the bad guys. Your body processes added sugar and natural sugar in the same way. Fruits contain vitamins, but they are also high in sugar. So the amazing changes people report might just as well be obtained by taking vitamin pills and more fibers. I'm not saying that a better diet doesn't make you feel better, just that 'no added sugar' is just a rule of thumb. 'Natural sugar…

While technically correct, you're missing what matters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

How am I missing what matters? The glycemic index of most fruits is higher than, for example, the glycemic index of sweetened yoghurt. So it makes little sense to eat fruits instead of sweetened yoghurt (but it would be a lot better then, say, sweet cereals).

Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by devmunchies »

ThomPete wrote: post #131
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

Fat isnt a problem. You can eat as much fat as you want(of course general advice goes about eating varied) as long as it doesent come with carbs. Its the carbs you need to lookk out for (which are also in potatoes)

Stop saying this. It's filling your arteries with plaque. If you cut out most fat and eat high amount of unrefined carbs, you will also lose weight. But it has the added benefit of not pumping your circulatory system full of sludge.

you can eat "as much as you want" as long as you are cutting carbs is because your body is in burn mode because it's deprived of energy. It's bad for you in the long term. Why anyone think they can eat as many handfuls of cheddar cheese as the want and have no consequences is deceived.

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Post by Rainymood »

dvt wrote: post #4

This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

I just skip breakfast and eat lunch and dinner as regular ... trying to opt for the healthy options most of the time. Works out great so far.

Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by pc86 »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I'm on board with everything except eliminating pasta.

It's just so damn good.

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Post by Raphmedia »

hycaria wrote: post #81
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

>I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas

Very often, you eat one banana in the morning. However, you can easily eat 3 potatoes in the morning, 1 during lunch and 5 for diner.

That's why you need to cut back on potatoes but can still eat that one banana.

Edit: Why the downvotes? This is one the main reason a nutritionist will tell you to cut potatoes from your diet. It's not a question of quality but of quantity. A single banana is easy to portion but baked, boiled, mashed and/or fried potatoes are harder. Restaurants will serve them in huge quantities and people have problems portioning them so it's easier to say "cut them out".

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Post by meuk »

anonu wrote: post #177
meuk wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be a bit careful with criticizing the US on Hacker News, I have been permanently banned for similar remarks. That aside, a large part of it seems to be culture. If you're living in a university-owned dorm, it is often mandatory to buy a card which provides dinner (usually at a ridiculous price). When you don't cook, you are less involved with the ingredients of your dinner, and more inclined to just 'take w…

> You might be a bit careful with criticizing the US on Hacker News, Is this a problem on HN? I haven't noticed it. You must have said something really atrocious. And the comment above you make reference to, though a bit tactless, is OK in my opinion.

This is not really the place for this discussion (I probably shouldn't have started it in the first place, but apparently I am still a bit bitter), but I will briefly respond.

> You must have said something really atrocious.

No, I just stated facts (the US performing poorly on various measures).

> Is this a problem on HN? I haven't noticed it.

I didn't either. I'm not sure if it's a problem, maybe I just had bad luck. It might also have to do with how banning works: You can see your posts, but others can. So banned folks might not realize that they are banned.

> And the comment above you make reference to, though a bit tactless, is OK in my opinion.

In my opinion too. And, as I said, my remarks were similar (I think even less tactless, as I was just stating facts).

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Post by Bartweiss »

astura wrote: post #15
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I highly suspect any highly restrictive diet will have the same effect no matter the restriction. Especially if "junk food" is one of the restrictions. You hear plenty of stuff like "I went vegan, food tastes so much better now, I've lost weight, I have so much energy, my mood is better, blah blah blah." Same with "alkaline diet," "cabbage soup diet," "low inflammation diet," "bacon diet," "salad diet," "gluten free…

At a certain point it seems like the main benefit of all restrictive diets is just that they exclude junk and force the dieter to cook at home.

If you can't eat Snickers, and you can't buy high sugar-salt-fat restaurant food (which often comes in massive portions), you'll probably eat a smaller amount of more nutritious food. Which is great, but there's no real need to pursue arcane diet restrictions to get there. And in some cases, like 'alkaline' diets, you can quickly get into real trouble with nutrient deficiency just because the food pool is so small.

As I recall, The Blonde Vegan (a popular food blogger) managed to end up seriously malnourished off a diet that initially made her feel healthy and energetic. Just as you say, the productive step was "eat less crap", and the counterproductive step was "eat only these 10 foods".

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Post by Accacin »

devmunchies wrote: post #204
ThomPete wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fat isnt a problem. You can eat as much fat as you want(of course general advice goes about eating varied) as long as it doesent come with carbs. Its the carbs you need to lookk out for (which are also in potatoes)

Stop saying this. It's filling your arteries with plaque. If you cut out most fat and eat high amount of unrefined carbs, you will also lose weight. But it has the added benefit of not pumping your circulatory system full of sludge. you can eat "as much as you want" as long as you are cutting carbs is because your body is in burn mode because it's deprived of energy. It's bad for you in the long term. Why anyone thin…

> Stop saying this. It's filling your arteries with plaque.

Source for this? In my opinion this is outdated thinking and new studies have shown the opposite.

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