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Firefox Studies aren't new, and aren't opt-out by default. They're opt-in per study, in fact. The code to run them comes with Firefox, that's it. All this HN link is is someone asking what the add-on is, not proclaiming it did anything.
In my Firefox 52.5.1 under a current CentOS 7, there is no about:studies. Either "studies" has been newly removed (Firefox updated yesterday, I think?) or about:studies is new or Firefox Studies has been included by default after the 52 series. Perhaps its just me, but I still think of post-52 Firefox as "new". It's nonetheless not obvious to me why you were downvoted; I don't know if someone else was annoyed at your…
Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#202FF 57 installed from Debian unstable repository has "Data reporting is disabled for this build configuration" - which disabled, in theory, the shield "studies" as well. I don't know who made this decision at Debian, but thank you.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#203Many people seem to be shocked because Mozilla installed an add-on automatically. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter since the code is coming from Mozilla - they're building the whole browser, so they could introduce functionality anywhere. If someone distrusts their add-ons, why trust their browser at all? The main question is what behavior is being introduced. I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the ad…
> I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the add-on does nothing until the user opts-in on studies. It adds some css to a list of words: https://github.com/gregglind/addon-wr/blob/da464ac8f1c3b0894...
https://github.com/gregglind/addon-wr/blob/da464ac8f1c3b0894...
(It defaults to "false.")
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
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Speaking for myself here, but I'm not concerned that Mozilla might push malware into Firefox installations. I'm concerned about the lack of judgement in pushing an extension with a vague, scary-sounding name and description simply for a cross-marketing tie-in, and I'm worried that it could have damaged the trust ordinary users have in Firefox.
> I'm not concerned that Mozilla might push malware into Firefox installations Nobody is concerned about that, in my opinion. I'm concerned someone will push malware through Mozilla into Firefox installations. Pushing addon installs should not be possible at all.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
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How do they abuse your privacy without tracking? Of course if they didn't abuse your time and attention they wouldn't make sense. But someone has to be paying Firefox's development, and it is not you. I'll take that last part back if you contribute to Mozilla. Hey, maybe it's an idea for a donation: make a 5$ Firefox without adds. I'd pay. To bad part goes to Google that way.
The irony is that people pay, just not to the right place. Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP that never makes it to the provider. I want plain-text ads that provide just as much revenue to web sites but without obnoxious experiences and fat downloads.
Only in third internet world countries like the US... Elsewhere, we don't have limited data plans.
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#206Many people seem to be shocked because Mozilla installed an add-on automatically. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter since the code is coming from Mozilla - they're building the whole browser, so they could introduce functionality anywhere. If someone distrusts their add-ons, why trust their browser at all? The main question is what behavior is being introduced. I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the ad…
This is being added to the browser, outside the realm of security updates, through what is supposed to be a UX improvement program, for commercial purposes. It's written by a commercial company that produces advertisement content. It's not clear this code is audited. Sorry, but I'm uninstalling firefox. They have broken the basic trust I have in them as a user to not push arbitrary code to my machine against my inter…
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#207Many people seem to be shocked because Mozilla installed an add-on automatically. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter since the code is coming from Mozilla - they're building the whole browser, so they could introduce functionality anywhere. If someone distrusts their add-ons, why trust their browser at all? The main question is what behavior is being introduced. I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the ad…
> I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the add-on does nothing until the user opts-in on studies. It adds some css to a list of words: https://github.com/gregglind/addon-wr/blob/da464ac8f1c3b0894...
I haven't figured out how that setting is exposed yet. Maybe they expect people to go to about:config and change it? Is there video footage suggesting that in the TV show?
https://github.com/gregglind/addon-wr/blob/104-rename-less-v...
Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser
#208This is the second spyware extension in recent memory. How hard is it to fork Firefox with all this stuff hardcoded off?
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You don't just need "Studies" enabled, you also need to explicitly opt-in to each specific study on an individual basis: > Participation in an individual study is opt-in Source: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Shield/Shield_Studies If that didn't happen in this case, then I suspect it's probably a bug.
> you also need to explicitly opt-in Wrong, as far as I see: Looking in my about:config, I see app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled=true browser.onboarding.shieldstudy.enabled=true enabled by default . The settings that I've changed from the default are shown in bold. These aren't bold. Those are the defaults. Everybody can check. That means that the user must actively take steps to disable them, if he knows that they ex…
According to the Wiki page I linked in my previous comment, global settings shouldn't even matter in this case; since each SHIELD study must be opted into on an individual basis. (Or at least, that's how it's _supposed_ to work.)
Edit: Looks like the wiki was updated to state that some studies can be opt-out rather than opt-in. This also seems in-line with the documentation for SHIELD, which has a section on opt-out studies: https://normandy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/actions/opt-o...