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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by DKnoll »

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #55
pmarreck wrote: post #8

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These regulations are outdated. The push against fat calories and towards carbohydrates was largely motivated by the sugar industry, see: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtQLDptI1g In addition to this, fat calories are more “filling” than carbohydrate calories. Something useful for a meal replacement (assuming unsaturated/“healthy” fats) I hope Soylent sticks to their guns with the best knowledge available, and I hope…

I used to live in Canada, now back in UK. Canadians won’t push for reforms. They’ll accept it. Incredibly docile population. Also they have more pressing issues, online purchases from outside Canada are charged duty if the purchase is over CDN $20. In the US the duties apply only after USD $800. See: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/duty-free-limit-america-1.34... There are countless other ‘controls’ of this sort in p…

> Canadians won’t push for reforms. They’ll accept it.

If you think duties on personal purchases from outside the country are a 'pressing issue' your priorities are way out of whack there bud.

I'm confused that you criticise Canada for having 'controls' on the population (bit melodromatic) but chose to move back to the UK with its ubiquitous CCTV.

I'm just going to leave that docile comment where it lies (in more ways than one) because it's an obvious provocation. Sorry you didn't enjoy your time here.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by cal5k »

legostormtroopr wrote: post #68
cal5k wrote: post #19

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Well here's an example - I'm having jaw surgery tomorrow and will be on a liquid diet for a week. I stocked my fridge up with Soylent so that I'd have something decent-tasting and relatively nutritious to drink while I'm feeling like garbage. I also will make shakes, but sometimes soylent is just easier.

Why not buy a commercially made meal replacement product that has been on the market for decades and is endorsed by nursing and medical professions and is used in hospitals? Its not like no one had ever done meal-replacement foods before Soylent came along. Its not new, its not cheaper, its not as well regulated, its not as flavorful. Seriously, why would you buy Soylent (which has had numerous beta 'failures') over…

Ensure tastes awful. If I had to live on that for a week I'd go bonkers.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

PeanutNore wrote: post #180
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #155

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Not every culture in Europe, I'm afraid. English people have a pretty strong aversion towards "offal" (innards). I live in the UK (I'm originally from Greece) and it's impossible to find any trachea or lungs, let alone small intestines for some traditional dishes I really miss (g. kokoretsi, gardoumba). You can find hearts, livers, kidneys and stomachs, but except for chicken livers, pretty much only in halal (i.e. m…

Black pudding is a central component of the "full English breakfast" that seems to be readily available all over London. Someone's gotta be eating it, and probably not just tourists like me. There's a huge class component in eating offal, though. It might be that you're associating mainly with middle class people who find eating offal to be beneath them, or looking for it in middle class areas. Small intestines (chit…

Black pudding is part of the full English in Yorkshire, but not more southerly than that, as far as I know. It's not surprising to find it in London- you can find anything edible in London, including a restaurant that specialises in cooking animals whole and letting nothing go to waste. I forget the name, it's one of those trendy expensive ones so I've never been.

Where I live in the South, the full English is french toast, baked beans, hash browns, fried mushrooms, grilled tomatoes, eggs, bacon, sausage and spam (sorry, couldn't resist). I sincerely believe that a majority of English people would not touch their breakfast if it had black pudding in it.

Also, I'd think the middle classes would be more likely to eat offal, just to show they're superior to the plebs. But I might be wrong.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by pervycreeper »

nilved wrote: post #133
discreditable wrote: post #99

I find it funny that on their powder's product page[1], they champion themselves for "Transparent Labeling", and right under that put the "bad" stuff in barely legible grey. 1. https://www.soylent.com/product/powder/

This is simply disingenuous. That's perfectly legible. Especially compared to the common practice of not posting it at all. I don't see how anyone can be upset at this.

Not to mention describing those traits as "bad". The second column casts the creators in a good light by suggesting that they value empiricism and science over snake-oil and magic.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by d0lph »

freeflight wrote: post #197
d0lph wrote: post #181

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It looks like you are not meant to live off of Fresubin. Just 2 bottles, or 800 calories is certainly not enough. > 2 x 200ml bottles per day will provide 40g protein, 800kcal and meets the average adult recommended daily requirements for vitamins and trace-elements# (DOH 1991). You would need to drink 5 bottles to meet average calorie requirements. I don't know if there are health risks to consuming 2.5x above the d…

> It looks like you are not meant to live off of Fresubin. Just 2 bottles, or 800 calories is certainly not enough. The DRINK bottles are designed as a supplement to the tube feed, but it's all pretty much the same stuff with the main difference being that DRINK is flavored for oral consumption. > I don't know if there are health risks to consuming 2.5x above the daily requirements, but it was clearly not designed to…

I am aware there is something for medical use people may consume.

The main thing is these are meant as a supplement, not for you to live off of, as opposed to Soylent.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

podzyx wrote: post #198
52-6F-62 wrote: post #112

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In general, it's been pretty well accepted in Canada that fats should take a higher priority and we should reduce our overall carbohydrate consumption in a healthy diet. [0] The alternative to this being athletes. We had to carbo-load the night before a game/race/etc -- but not on the regular. I think those caps are meant to nudge people in the direction of getting their nutrients from non-processed food sources. It'…

I do not understand how the sources you provided result in the conclusion that 'fats should take higher priority' in a healthy diet. Much of the recent literature suggests that too much fat in the diet can result in a higher concentration of Intramyocellular Lipids (fat in the cells), this has been shown to increase insulin resistance (resulting in +ce instances of type 2 diabetes) [0]. In addition, the blue zone stu…

It was more an example of the fact that it's been in Canadian health groups' consideration for at least the past 7 years, as one of the posters above asserted that Canadian food groups still favoured carbohydrates and didn't have updated information on fats consumption.

More recent sources: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canadian-researchers-fat-carbo...

To wit: there is a dramatic difference between the types of fats that should increase in our diets, versus the types of fats that should decrease.

It certainly isn't about reducing the proportion of whole grains, nuts, and seeds to the proportion of other sources of carbohydrates. If anything, when talking about fats, nuts and seeds are included in that argument. I spend more on my breads these days precisely because of this -- as part of my diet I require the increased iron and fats contents of whole-grain breads that include nuts and seeds. I've also taken to eating less of that bread, and spend more time snacking on nuts -- especially at work.

I can't however speak from the perspective of somebody with insulin issues or diabetes. I'm closer to anemic in my dietary needs.

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