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Re: ProtonVPN

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Post by marcopol »

newscracker wrote: post #184

The free tier is in a waiting list right now. I thought I shouldn't try the paid one without getting a feel for how good and fast the service is (had bad experiences with another highly popular VPN provider in the past and canceled within a few days). I also wondered why ProtonVPN doesn't list any trial period in the paid plans. So I went to the support page and found that it has nothing about payment, trials and can…

You can test the Plus account by signing up for the Free plan on the Windows client. You have 7 days Plus ProtonVPN trial https://protonvpn.com/

Re: ProtonVPN

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Post by Markoff »

bogomipz wrote: post #51
hedora wrote: post #9

I have mixed feelings about protonmail. On the one hand, they tend to be on the right side of political / legal issues, and this transparency report is nice: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ On the other hand, they recently reduced the level of detail in the transparency report. There is also the fact that they are Swiss, and their privacy laws were severely weakened by a recent referendum. In particu…

>ProtonMail fought the referendum, but hasn't updated this "Why Switzerland?" page: https://protonmail.com/blog/switzerland/" Agreed, and that referendum was back in September of 2016. That's almost 9 months ago. This seems really disingenuous. And the referendum didn't just eek by but it passed by 65%. So if the Swiss domicile doesn't offer the protections it once did, why would I choose this provider over any of th…

can you please recommend some of those well known email companies?

Re: ProtonVPN

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Post by pdcerb »

zsj wrote: post #17

I saw that they use OpenVPN protocol[1], then I stopped reading other things. Although the encrypted connections can not be decrypted, the OpenVPN protocol is easy to be detected and banned in some highly censored network. I recommends the shadowsocks protocol[2] which I used in the censored network, which is hard to be detected and decrypted. [1] https://protonvpn.com/secure-vpn [2] https://github.com/shadowsocks

You can use a ssl tunnel to avoid DPI detection by your censored network or ISP. It will obfuscate your openvpn tunnel with another ssl layer, although you'll take a performance hit.

Packages like STunnel/stunnel might help(available for both windows/linux).

Re: ProtonVPN

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Post by blunte »

vabmit wrote: post #196
blunte wrote: post #147

Too bad they're focused on new and shiny at the expense of real (paying) email users. After a year of Visionary, I finally went back to Google. PM just isn't designed for large mailboxes, real search, or navigation. Plus they still have not provided any way for you to export your emails out. They're locked up forever, unless you want to forward each one, one at a time.

Search has been dramatically improved. Difficulties with large mailboxes are often a complex function of many variables with things like client side javascript decryption speeds often playing a large role. While testing is done with large mailboxes as part of the development process, the ultimate solution for people with extremely large boxes will likely be the use of the Bridge program with an IMAP mail client such…

Unless this was introduced within the last couple of months, I never had the option to do IMAP. I wanted it... I would have happily offloaded all that to a local mail client. Plus I would now possess copies of all my email for the year.

Re: ProtonVPN

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Post by teekert »

earenndil wrote: post #156
teekert wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they still can't read your email, nobody can, even thought it is on their servers and crossing Swiss borders.

See now, this is the part I don't get. Assuming that you don't encrypt your email with pgp (reasonable, if you're emailing someone who isn't very techy) and aren't emailing someone else who also uses protonmail, there's nothing stopping them from making an unencrypted copy of every email they receive.

The decryption only takes place on your local machine. Of course, you'd either have to check the source or, trust them. It very often comes down to trust.
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