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Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Advertisers will finally move their tracking behind their CDN's, which was always the end goal for them and why they were free in the first place.

Then we have a problem where the industry is reliant enough on CDN's that browsers can't simply block access.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Sounds like this is more in line with what they did with ApplePay vs traditional credit cards--I.e. They give you randomized IDs each time so the other party can't track you from transaction to transaction. Adds can still appear but they won't know who you are, so it's a direct shot at Google and others looking to give people "targeted" adds based on user behavior. I agree it's an issue that needs addressed. Just bec…

I've had that problem before as well. My wife was going to Mexico and looking for a new swimsuit, and so I was hitting up the SwimCo website. Cue three months of women's swimwear ads from SwimCo – and nothing else. Almost every single ad on every single page was the same ad in different shapes, all of them for SwimCo.

Recently too I've noticed that Amazon is putting ads in my Instagram feed for specifically things that I've looked at on Amazon within the last day or two. I'll literally click a link to a book or do a search, and then four hours later it'll show up in an ad in the app.

Aside from being kind of pointless (I already know about these items, why are you showing them to me later that day?), it's also all kinds of creepy and unsettling to see Amazon advertising six things I've seen recently, and not even on the same device I was viewing them on.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Hmmm. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/isps-say-your-we... > CTIA is the main lobbyist group representing mobile broadband providers such as AT&T, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile USA, and Sprint. It doesn't just represent them, Apple is also a member: https://www.ctia.org/about/our-members

5 downvotes huh; anyone able to explain how the above is compatible with a strong pro-privacy stance? That's like saying you're a vegetarian, except for saturday noon.

Apple may be a member of CTIA, and CTIA may have argued for a particular anti-privacy stance, but that doesn't mean Apple supports that stance. There are a lot of members of CTIA, and CTIA presumably lobbies for a lot of things, not just ISP privacy rules.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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It's also a real shame they're doing this before Mozilla. Mozilla already has Tracking Protection but only for Private Windows. It's like Mozilla can't even embrace its privacy stance fully.

I didn't realize it was only activated in private windows. Now that you've made me notice I consider this misleading, on the settings page it says nothing about being private windows only.

It most certainly does say that this only applies to private windows, "Use Tracking Protection in Private Windows" [1]. If you want the always using tracking protection you can set privacy.trackingprotection.enabled to true in about:config or install the disconnect extension.

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/settings-privacy-browsi...

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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The network stack has been out of the content process for a super long time, it is not a new thing. (Ironically, Chrome engineers argued strenuously against doing it when we first started). You're right that separate GPU process is a huge advantage for Chrome. Kudos on that, and we'll likely have to move in the same direction sooner or later. Audio/video capture is temporary and not in currently shipping Safari. It w…

> The network stack has been out of the content process for a super long time, it is not a new thing. FWIW, Chrome's network stack doesn't live in the content process either. It's not currently sandboxed, but it's in a process that has no scripting runtime or other dynamic content, so it's still pretty high bar for exploit. The exact reasons for the current situation have to do with some legacy Windows support that h…

It does seem like being cross-platform makes it more natural for Chrome to lock down the content process very tightly, and provides a strong incentive to do so. On the other hand, it may make it more difficult or less natural to lock down some of the other processes.

On our end, it's natural to sandbox every new process we introduce, but also easy to fudge what is allowed in sandbox profiles. Sometimes we have a choice of accessing a service through a separate process, or working to make sure that service itself is more secure (sandboxed itself, offers thinner and properly validated IPC interface, etc). In many cases, the real right choice may be to do both. As well as fuzzing the heck out of every IPC boundary.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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More importantly: They're going to block auto-playing shit.

As more and more sites offend readers by disturbing their coworkers, waking their companions, and interrupting other media with offensive NOISE; it's Apple, and not Google, stepping up to do something about it.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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How can you say that when Windows 10 had Cortana turned on by default? Siri is not enabled by default on a Mac (just like all the other services) and you have to purposely choose to have them turned on during install.

I'm pretty sure I was asked to opt in to Cortana during install. During the setup phase so it may be true of OEMs as well.

What are you talking about, you can't turn it off
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