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Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by amyjess »

ziikutv wrote: post #151

Is it just me or all apps now seem to either use.. * Material design * Apple-like design * Dropbox-like design Even when I goto Dribble, its the same thing, different colors. And the worse thign is, even when I am designing something. I conform to that norm!

IMO, when you're designing for a platform, it's distasteful to use anything other than that platform's UX.

Ideally, all Android apps should use Material Design, and all iOS apps should look like they were made by Apple (does Apple have a name for their design?).

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by ska »

blahblah12 wrote: post #89

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebran…

I'm not convinced this is MSFT specific, and I do appreciate your optimism about the team (your team?) and what it is doing.

Taken as a whole, these sort of acquisitions/acquihires have not tended to go well for the users of the smaller teams original products. One can argue that their is or is not a net win, of course - but if you are a user of a service like this and really like it, chances are pretty good you aren't going to like what company X does with it after acquisition. Given that, it's pretty unremarkable to hear people say "so much for service X, now A has bought them". On the whole, they are mostly right. Sometimes you get an nice service Y out of it though! Often not a great replacement for the original, but nice nonetheless.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by CMay »

joshschreuder wrote: post #8

Sad news, Wunderlist was very handy. Does anyone have a recommendation for a similar app with shared lists? To-Do doesn't handle this (or a bunch of WL functionality for that matter)

Wunderlist will keep working until Microsoft To-Do has those features. Once they're done implementing those, you can import your Wunderlist and transition over.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by kilroy123 »

0xADADA wrote: post #127

> “I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.” Wunderlist refugees flee the Empire of Microsoft for refuge at sites like https://todoist.com/

Yeah, looks like I'll have no choice. I've been an avid wunderlist user for a few years now. I never did get into todoist, not like I did with wunderlist.

What a disappointment. I didn't even know they had been bought by MSFT.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by ThisIsUnfair »

VladimirGolovin wrote: post #13

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

Does HN have a way of moderating astroturfing? I'm honestly curious. Im aware of the typical HN digressions but it appears lately, threads are just consistently hijacked encircled in twaddles and responses to channel traffic and discussion off to some app.

What are the checks and balances if any to keep the astroturfing binge to a minimum and encourage discussions instead of traffic channeling bait.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by developer2 »

VladimirGolovin wrote: post #13

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

Your barrier in gaining popularity once you launch is going to be cross-platform support. It sounds like you started wholly with Android, with other platforms coming further down the pipeline. These days a product that does not have apps for at least Windows, Android, iOS, and OS X severely limits its customer base.

Android essentially represents only a subset of phones and tablets. An app like yours is useless to many people unless it has desktop equivalents, as mobile-only access heavily restricts a user's ability to be productive where and when they need it. I might be an edge case, but I use Windows, OS X, an iPhone, and an Android tablet. Your app could be the most functional and usable todo app out there, but a competing product with 10% of your features is going to wind up being my choice simply because I get to use it across all my workflows. Platform support beats out the quality of the app, every time.

Based on your screenshots, the app is wonderful. I simply suspect you have focused too much on launching a 100% complete product instead of starting with an MVP. Obsessing over having a perfect product that launches too late to market, while your competition launches early and takes your cake, is all too common a scenario.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by grzm »

ThisIsUnfair wrote: post #207
VladimirGolovin wrote: post #13

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

Does HN have a way of moderating astroturfing? I'm honestly curious. Im aware of the typical HN digressions but it appears lately, threads are just consistently hijacked encircled in twaddles and responses to channel traffic and discussion off to some app. What are the checks and balances if any to keep the astroturfing binge to a minimum and encourage discussions instead of traffic channeling bait.

Yes, there is moderation. If you have concerns about astroturfing, you can contact the mods via the Contact link in the footer.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by izacus »

amix wrote: post #84
arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

Thanks for the support arikfr! Being a long time HN user, I am happy to see Todoist recommended. We are in this for the long haul. We don't even go into acquisitions talks (we already turned down a lot of them), and we don't have an exit strategy. If you are interested in learning more please read our `No Exit philosophy` https://tentimezones.com/why-we-don-t-have-an-exit-strategy-...

Nice to see that - I love Todoist, especially due to its wide platform support (having quality apps for macOS, Android and Android Wear is pretty awesome!).
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