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Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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"Actually it's probably a false flag to make Russia look bad." - throwaway71958, created 8 days ago 2017 in a nutshell right there.

Full circle irony: I find the argument of the dubious throwaway more beliveable than OP.

Count us both.

The BS one hears today (against Russia, etc) are the "WMD"s of 2017.

There's a single superpower the last 2+ decades (Russia is no USSR) and it has a long history of pushing for its "interests" all over the world, starting wars, grabbing resources, overthrowing governments, supporting all kinds of lunatics and dictators.

And covering the whole damage they do with holier than though finger pointing, made up stories, and generally BS they serve a docile and mostly ignorant on anything happening outside their home state, much less worldwide, population. Or, actually, worse than ignorant: mostly informed from mainstream tv news presenting them the "enemy du jour", but with a complete lack of context and history, and with any nuance and details jumbled up in their minds (in a "Go to Austria, see the kangaroos" fashion).

Whether its a Joe Sixpack or a college educated person, in the majority of cases they equally lack context and perspective, and have no real reason to even try to get one, since they have no skin in the game: some other poor suckers will go and fight (e.g. literally poor whites, blacks and latinos going into service) and some remote countries will pay the toll, so no big deal.

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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It's pretty fascinating to read the Shadow Broker's posts. They have to write something, since they can't just say "I work for Russia and we're reminding America that they're not invulnerable." So they have to come up with all sorts of contrived reasons about why they're doing this, complete with broken english to fool stylometry detection that walks the fine line between being believable and preposterous. Someone sp…

As a Russian myself, I can tell you with certainty that there are mistakes in that text that a Russian ESL speaker would never make, and verb tenses are a bit too good for an unskilled speaker. Due to the combination of these two factors, I bet this was written by a native English speaker who thinks he/she knows the mistakes a Russian would make. They're wrong.

I have no opinion on the content, but as a bilingual English - Russian speaker i concur that this is likely a text written by an English speaker who tries to sound like a foreigner.

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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Could this problem be fixed by splitting the NSA into two competing agencies, one handling offensive signals intelligence, and one handling cryptography research and disclosures? Intuitively it seems when the same agency performs both roles it creates a conflict of interest and bias against disclosure.

But then your second branch ends up looking(to the government at least) a lot like a research program instead of anything meaningful in terms of intelligence.

Research can be counter-intelligence, and thus intelligence.

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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For a pro-Russian shill I seem to be doing a bad job, seeing how I'm actually Russian and made no attempt to conceal this fact.

Eh, new account, and a throwaway, don't get offended at people not taking you seriously. You could just as easily be a 14 year old in North Dakota.

Probably from Alaska. I know you can "See Russia from there"...

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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They went even harder at it in an earlier medium post: "TheShadowBrokers is having special trick or treat for Amerikanskis tonight." https://medium.com/@shadowbrokerss/message-5-trick-or-treat-... I suppose though, that "Amerikanski" might be used outside Russia. Serbia, Bulgaria? Misdirection seems more likely though.

Amerikanski is used in those languages to indicate ownership (eg. This is an American car) so to someone of slavic speaking origin this would be wrong (they would've said Amerikanci to indicate plural). But even aside from that, this honestly sounds so put on. Even the worst english speakers I know from eastern Europe know that you add an "s" to form plural. We all take English from elementary school and nobody would…

Noticed this in the same post:

"Let us be speaking regarding corruption"

That sounds like a common phrasing I hear from Indians who aren't native English speakers.

So maybe Indian pretending to be an American pretending to be Russian? Heh.

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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> if that's what you really think, then you don't get to assume that the DNC was hacked "by the Russians". Agreed? Are you saying there's some letter written in broken english that's being used as proof of Russian involvement in the DNC hacks?

Now that we know the "tools used" "proof" is worthless because CIA uses those tools too, is there anything else?

What does that have to do with my point about inferring identity based on textual clues in this blog post?

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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Sure, but that's what someone would do if they were trying to implicate Russians.

Maybe they knew we'd think it odd for Russians to speak with a Russian accent so they did it anyway to trick us. "Are you the sort of man who would put the poison in his own goblet? Now a clever man would put the poison into my goblet, because he would know that only a fool would drink the goblet given to him. I am not a fool, so clearly you wouldn't do that. But you must have known that I was not a great fool, so I…

Great Princess Bride reference.

However, the moral I derive from this is the fact that the poison was put in both goblets.

Government organizations like the CIA are not just poisoning the other, but themselves and the people they are supposedly protecting as well.

Legacy of Ashes, et-all.

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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post #205

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Amerikanski is used in those languages to indicate ownership (eg. This is an American car) so to someone of slavic speaking origin this would be wrong (they would've said Amerikanci to indicate plural). But even aside from that, this honestly sounds so put on. Even the worst english speakers I know from eastern Europe know that you add an "s" to form plural. We all take English from elementary school and nobody would…

Noticed this in the same post: "Let us be speaking regarding corruption" That sounds like a common phrasing I hear from Indians who aren't native English speakers. So maybe Indian pretending to be an American pretending to be Russian? Heh.

I dunno man the whole thing is a mish-mash not resembling anything specific to be honest. Random obfuscation to hide true origin perhaps?

But the correct use of definite and indefinite articles indicates someone with a more than competent knowledge of English (whatever their nationality may be).

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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I'm not sure that's fair to say, you can recognize patterns, spot and attempt to emulate something, but that doesn't mean you actually are doing it correctly. Lots of militaries try to emulate the US military but cannot. Operational expertise, tempo and other factors are really difficult to nail down and something that's developed over time and with practice. I think what you're saying is fair, but the only nation st…

Maybe the US, trying to manipulate itself against Russia.

So, you are suggesting that TheShadowBrokers is a CIA effort, right? And that they elected Trump too to destroy Russia?
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