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AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by techman9 »

ArlenBales wrote: post #174
Jasber wrote: post #112

Don't understand the negativity. What Ryan and Product Hunt did was incredible. So many people wanted to create an alternative to Hacker News and Reddit for product people. Everyone else failed but they figured it out. That's awesome. Product Hunt personally helped me in my goal of becoming a independent app maker by showcasing my app https://www.producthunt.com/posts/focus . As of tomorrow I'm full-time indie (YES!)…

Question about your Mac app -- these blocker apps seem to be a dime-a-dozen, but I don't understand how people think they're effective. People have so many mobile devices now, just because I block my Macbook doesn't mean I can't waste time on my iPhone/iPad, or use another computer. In the end, it's pure will that is the best means to stop distraction, no app will solve the problem.

Do you have any tips for improving willpower?

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by DevX101 »

techman9 wrote: post #201
ArlenBales wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Question about your Mac app -- these blocker apps seem to be a dime-a-dozen, but I don't understand how people think they're effective. People have so many mobile devices now, just because I block my Macbook doesn't mean I can't waste time on my iPhone/iPad, or use another computer. In the end, it's pure will that is the best means to stop distraction, no app will solve the problem.

Do you have any tips for improving willpower?

Check out the book Willpower Instinct:

https://www.amazon.com/Willpower-Instinct-Self-Control-Works...

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by alexandersingh »

rfrank wrote: post #180
bbaumgar wrote: post #176

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Could you point to some examples where this has worked? It seems that the entry fee would either 1. limit the community's growth severely (not necessarily a bad thing), or 2. filter out good candidates.

SomethingAwful's forums required a paid membership and have been around a long time. IMO one of the points of a paid model is keeping membership down to people who actually care enough to pay said membership.

Additionally, the implicit threat of having your paid membership revoked for bad behavior can provide a natural check.

Something Awful has used this to great effect to keep trolls in line. I wonder what % of their membership revenue comes from banned users purchasing new accounts.

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by rhizome »

freddyc wrote: post #78
intro-b wrote: post #36

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don't preemptively judge your reasoning/analysis as cynical—it's a descriptor that's used to prematurely attack critique and commentary on feel good stories. if you don't buy into the narrative, you're being too cynical, doubtful, against the startup ethos. this kind of growth hacker, startup marketing clique, "hey look at my aspirational experiment journey" thrives off the lack of warranted criticism it receives

Great point - too often realism is mis-labeled as cynicism by those who have drunk a little too much of the Kool-Aid. It's one of the things about SV that gradually wore me down over time: the constant need for people to declare everything great because to admit otherwise (i.e. accept reality) went against the prevailing start-up ethos.

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it."

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by rhizome »

rfrank wrote: post #197
rhizome wrote: post #195

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Summering/Wintering is more of an East Coast thing where there is crappy weather during those seasons. Northern California has never had to have that tradition for itself, where people are more likely to have a "cabin," or vacation house.

Yeah, the whole thing seem to be about going somewhere that has weather your home doesn't have. In norcal that means snow.

Sure, but Tahoe/snow residences are mostly called cabins and at any rate most people don't spend the whole season there so much as use it as home base when skiing or spending weekends and occasional weeks there.

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by jkchu »

steveplace wrote: post #80
L_Rahman wrote: post #68

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That this is the top comment on this post gives me a lot of faith in this community. The general tone here can at times feel like an uncritical adoration of the valley ecosystem. I'm glad that some of us react differently.

>uncritical adoration Really? Hacker News comments are uncritical adoration? I'd weight the cynicism and perma-contrarianism a tad bit higher. In fact, I believe the success of a startup is inversely proportional to the amount of hate it gets in HN comments. Theranos excluded from the sample, of course.

such...irony

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by rfrank »

rhizome wrote: post #205
rfrank wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the whole thing seem to be about going somewhere that has weather your home doesn't have. In norcal that means snow.

Sure, but Tahoe/snow residences are mostly called cabins and at any rate most people don't spend the whole season there so much as use it as home base when skiing or spending weekends and occasional weeks there.

Yes, the differences (and lack of, really) "summering culture" is something I acknowledged in the first sentence of my earlier comment.

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by ComputerGuru »

jfktrey wrote: post #156
henrygrew wrote: post #70

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A very interesting point of view, what do you think can be done to counter this outcome.

What if you made community contribution a limited resource? Continuing the reddit example. You could limit contribution by three routes: 1) Limiting the number of posts. For example, 3 posts per week, max. 2) Limiting the visibility of posts. The more you post, the less an upvote counts. Effective Upvote Value = 1 / (posts this week) 3) Limiting the visibility of posts based on post quality . The more you post in a w…

3) Limiting the visibility of posts based on post quality. The more you post in a week and the lower your per-post average karma, the less an upvote counts. Effective Upvote Value = (per-post average karma) / (posts this week)

You probably weren't around for it, but HN experimented with something like this where each commenter's running average point tally for the last X posts or Y time was visible on their profile and indirectly visible on each of their comments. Their name (comment?) would appear in a different (darker?) shade the higher their running average.

I personally liked it, but it was rolled back after a couple of months. I think people became afraid to make replies that wouldn't accumulate up votes, and I know I wouldn't reply to threads if someone commented a day later because "it wasn't worth it."

Re: AngelList acquires Product Hunt

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Post by gnicholas »

aartur wrote: post #41
kaolti wrote: post #32

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Just to provide a counterpoint, I submitted a pretty simple Chrome extension 2 months ago and got 270 upvotes and around 2k visits to it's website. It ended up no. 6 for the day so almost made it in the daily newsletter. It was my first time submitting anything, was pretty much inactive before it and all the promotion I did at the time was tweeting to my 400 followers.

> tweeting to my 400 followers. That must be the difference (or I was blocked by some filter). I didn't try to make a social-media call-for-action, because I didn't want to trigger voting-ring protections. EDIT. As for the filters... PH doesn't allow comments which include "ps aux" or "curl" strings. I learned this by studying HTTP responses using Developer Tools, because the error was not signalled in PH's UI :).

Yep, the absence of enforcement ends up hurting people who abide by the rules.
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