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Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#201

It's great timing for elementary. I'm having a lot of software problems with the Mac, and since I develop exclusively for Linux it seems like it'd be a lot easier if I could build and run everything on my target platform.

The elementary community would love feedback on how to solve pains with mac. There's a subreddit or you could post bug reports on launchpad.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#202

So USB-C is what it takes to get you to switch to Linux? What are you going to do when all other laptop manufacturers follow suit - switch back? Mac users who make this threat sound just like people who threaten to move to Canada every election cycle.

You're too easily accepting the premise of the article at face value. It's likely the premise just was made up as a rhetorical device to promote the OP's favorite Linux distribution.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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This is a long-standing criticism of Elementary. I think they initially didn't even provide a way to get a free download, and eventually settled for the current UI. Basically the founder-owner is adamant that someone has to pay for his time, and tbh I don't begrudge him.

Oh, I don't begrudge him either. I run a small software company myself. We're selling our software on the internet. But our website focuses on getting people to download the free trial first. The "asking for money" is then done once the trial period ends. It's already hard to get people to download your stuff for free. With obviously visible download buttons. If we did what Elementary is doing we would be closing our…

As far as I know the GPL does not allow trial periods and asking for money later on, but feel free to correct me. That's why elementary cannot do such a thing.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#204

Perhaps I am just dense, but the article references, specifically, the "Pro" market. For most pros that I know (and I am among them), our OS choice is often based on our tools, not the other way around. If I need Photoshop, Lightroom, Logic Pro, Visual Studio, etc., switching will be quite a chore. For the average user, this is probably a much more appealing argument.

Unfortunately, Linux lacks in the creative market. There's no way this can change soon without support from big players, like, for example, Adobe.

I'm not sure what toolkit Adobe use but I have a feeling it's not easily portable to Linux.

Inkscape and Gimp are the stalwarts, but for someone coming from Sketch or Photoshop they feel quite ancient and somewhat messy.

https://www.figma.com is cross-platform (web based), and a pretty good Sketch competitor

For a Lightroom replacement, Darktable is actually quite good (though I really miss the high quality shadows/highlights algorithm from ACR)

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#205

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I wish I had known that trick. I payed some money for it, which isn't unusual since I often donate money to open source or activism. But this time I regret every cent. Coming from Mac OS, or even Fedora, Elementary seems unpolished and unstable.

I really wish someone would start a paid OS based on Linux and OSS tools. I'd happily pay $100/y (year being, new versions/etc) for a stable and awesome UI/UX. As it is, my Macbook Pro Retina has been crashing a lot and doing weird things frequently since i upgraded to Sierra. Between that and the latest Macbook Pro notebooks, i just don't like Apple anymore. I'm pretty set on buying a highend laptop _(similar build…

You can always pay for Ubuntu. BTW, that is probably the one closest to what you're describing, not elementary, but they have a tendency to focus in fixing not the broken things.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#206

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Because most people using linux on the desktop (thus the development target) value functionality over aesthetics. Do I like it when things are pretty? Sure. Do I need them to be pretty to get shit done? No

> value functionality over aesthetics. Not much in that department, either. Nothing that beats the proprietary software staples, especially for creatives, that I happen to use: no Cubase, Pro Tools, Photoshop, Premiere, etc. Lots of apps ranging from "close but no cigar" to "why even try?".

If you're a developer, almost all the killer apps support Linux first. But you're right that this is the deal breaker

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#207

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I tried running it this week since I have a lot of friends who use Macs. I figured I could help them out if they had questions, etc. But after a few minutes I went back to KDE as Elementary was horribly broken coming from Kububtu. It probably assumes you'll be installing from fresh.

elementary is indeed not meant to be 'just a desktop environment like gnome / kde'. Installing it that way is not supported. It's a full operating system including default apps, etc. all sorts of things you probably didn't install. You should indeed install it fresh. I hope you didn't give your friends a bad expression.

I didn't. I didn't tell them anything.

I just don't have any interest in installing it full. Instead I went with KDE Neon.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#208
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I'm really hoping this is just a phase. Hoping that Apple will reduce prices of new laptops and we'll be back to normal. Right now everybody is using Macs. Walk into the Bay Area coffee shop, you see Macs everywhere. I love that. I build desktop software for Macs (focuslist.co). My apps are prettier than any others. They are easier and faster to use. This is the reason why people pay me $5 while they can get the job…

But you have to realize that those applications on Macs are not for everyone. Which basically means that if Mac were to continue having their monopoly, developers like YOU would never look to provide the same kinds of services to people who prefer something else. Not everyone uses software that just because they look pretty.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I had known that trick. I payed some money for it, which isn't unusual since I often donate money to open source or activism. But this time I regret every cent. Coming from Mac OS, or even Fedora, Elementary seems unpolished and unstable.

I really wish someone would start a paid OS based on Linux and OSS tools. I'd happily pay $100/y (year being, new versions/etc) for a stable and awesome UI/UX. As it is, my Macbook Pro Retina has been crashing a lot and doing weird things frequently since i upgraded to Sierra. Between that and the latest Macbook Pro notebooks, i just don't like Apple anymore. I'm pretty set on buying a highend laptop _(similar build…

I'm right there with you. The only thing that keeps me on a Mac is the combination of Unix + Half decent UX. If someone built a paid Unix/Linux distro that could run Mac Apps, I'd give away my extra kidney for it.

Windows almost has me sold with their new Ubuntu subsystem.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

#210
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I'm really hoping this is just a phase. Hoping that Apple will reduce prices of new laptops and we'll be back to normal. Right now everybody is using Macs. Walk into the Bay Area coffee shop, you see Macs everywhere. I love that. I build desktop software for Macs (focuslist.co). My apps are prettier than any others. They are easier and faster to use. This is the reason why people pay me $5 while they can get the job…

The USB-C ports and the processor + RAM limitations will be fixed by time.

As soon as Intel rolls out their full Kaby Lake line, the Macbook Pro will get a rev that will improve speed and permit 32GB of RAM. Counting in design and manufacturing time, that could be about a year from now.

And USB-C is clearly the future for connectors. In a year or two a lot more peripherals will be shipping with USB-C as the default cord.

This is why Apple carries a huge amount of cash around on their books: so that they can make long-term decisions even if it hurts in the short term.

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