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Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by pjc50 »

arielb1 wrote: post #66
pdkl95 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If employees are having trouble saying "no" to unsafe, unethical, or unlawful projects, then a professional association or union is needed. A professional association can create duty requirements external to a company; it's easier to say no to your boss is have the excuse that "as a member of $ORG, I have follow $ETHICS_RULE". Alternatively a union can put pressure companies to never ask for certain things or to meet…

If there is one thing our world does not lack, it's amoral people. Would you prefer that Facebook only hire them?

Day 1; "Here at Facebook, we're only hiring amoral people from now on!"

Day 87; Facebook declares bankruptcy. None of the money can be found. The servers have already been stolen by the surviving employees. Administrators arrive at HQ to find only a few broken chairs and a vast pile of shredded paper.

(to explain the joke, there is a downside to hiring amoral people)

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by pjc50 »

hoodoof wrote: post #157
grandalf wrote: post #142

This is one of the many dark patterns that Facebook uses. It simply does not respect any boundaries the user might wish to have in place... Install it on your phone? Anyone you have in your phone's address book gets to see your picture under "people you may know". Someone in your family joins Facebook and friends you? Now everyone you are friends with gets prompted about whether or not they know your family member. W…

Some girl from a dating site Googled my phone number, found my name, searched for me on Facebook and then Facebook suggested I friend her, providing me with her full name, which I did not previously know. If you search for someone on Facebook, then Facebook will suggest to that person that they friend you. Seems a massive privacy hole to me.

I didn't know about this either, but it sounds like you may have found another possible source of the leak: patients putting the name of the psychiatrist into FB search.

If B searches for A and C searches for A, does that imply a relationship between B and C? Especially if they live nearby? Who knows :(

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by kendallpark »

I uninstalled the Facebook app from my phone when it kept trying to push Messenger on me. I only use the webclient these days.

This bolsters my resolve to keep that app off my phone. You know, it doesn't bother me too much to have companies like Google analyzing my email to send targeted ads because I assume that information is not going to get out to the public. Facebook is a different case because there's a bidirectional flow of private information. It is a HUGE privacy concern (especially as someone that will be a physician in a few years).

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by dasboth »

kendallpark wrote: post #204

I uninstalled the Facebook app from my phone when it kept trying to push Messenger on me. I only use the webclient these days. This bolsters my resolve to keep that app off my phone. You know, it doesn't bother me too much to have companies like Google analyzing my email to send targeted ads because I assume that information is not going to get out to the public. Facebook is a different case because there's a bidirec…

I succumbed to the Messenger app and the first thing it did was message a random handful of my friends to say I've joined Messenger... instant uninstall. Now I also just use the web client and if I want to read my messages on my phone I can do that by requesting the desktop site.

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by NoGravitas »

dasboth wrote: post #206
kendallpark wrote: post #204

I uninstalled the Facebook app from my phone when it kept trying to push Messenger on me. I only use the webclient these days. This bolsters my resolve to keep that app off my phone. You know, it doesn't bother me too much to have companies like Google analyzing my email to send targeted ads because I assume that information is not going to get out to the public. Facebook is a different case because there's a bidirec…

I succumbed to the Messenger app and the first thing it did was message a random handful of my friends to say I've joined Messenger... instant uninstall. Now I also just use the web client and if I want to read my messages on my phone I can do that by requesting the desktop site.

You can also request the mobile site (m.facebook.com), but with a desktop user interface. This seems to be the most practical way of reading Facebook messages on mobile at this time.

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by kendallpark »

NoGravitas wrote: post #207
dasboth wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I succumbed to the Messenger app and the first thing it did was message a random handful of my friends to say I've joined Messenger... instant uninstall. Now I also just use the web client and if I want to read my messages on my phone I can do that by requesting the desktop site.

You can also request the mobile site (m.facebook.com), but with a desktop user interface. This seems to be the most practical way of reading Facebook messages on mobile at this time.

Yup, this is exactly what I do.

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by ensignavenger »

throwanem wrote: post #198
ensignavenger wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One outlier hardly establishes a pattern, it is still reasonable that the connection to Lisa had nothing to do with these suggestions, and that there was something else in play.

An outlier like that destroys the pattern you're arguing must exist.

I'm not arguing that any pattern exists- I am merely arguing that we don't have enough information to demonstrate conclusively that Facebook is recommending these people as friends simply because they are all Lisas patients. Such a pattern may be probable, but there simply isn't enough information to come to a conclusion.

Re: Facebook recommended that a psychiatrist’s patients friend each other

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Post by throwanem »

ensignavenger wrote: post #209
throwanem wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An outlier like that destroys the pattern you're arguing must exist.

I'm not arguing that any pattern exists- I am merely arguing that we don't have enough information to demonstrate conclusively that Facebook is recommending these people as friends simply because they are all Lisas patients. Such a pattern may be probable, but there simply isn't enough information to come to a conclusion.

I don't suppose I feel it necessary to reach absolute incontrovertibility on this matter, given Facebook's longstanding history of doing things very like it, but find mere strong preponderance of likelihood to suffice. But I understand that some may feel otherwise.
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