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Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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On their website is a banner: "Cancel netflix!". I click on it, and I'm told I should cancel netflix because they put DRM on their HTML5 delivery of movies. Now look, Im a self-professed pirate. I say screw most DRM and I dont recognize IP law. However, I totally disagree that I should "cancel netflix". What are they supposed to do ? Deliver all their movies DRM-free and see them immediately get copied to torrent sit…

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Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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What a strange reply. You're the one who brought up "torrent sites" in the first place.

The argument is way more nuanced than whether something is on torrent or not. Which is why it appears that I'm arguing against myself. I'm not. I originally brought up that without DRM, someone could rip netflix's entire catalog and publish it straight to bittorrent. Thats a concern to IP stakeholders and likely a big reason they require DRM from Netflix. He's saying "they're on torrent already, so why should netflix…

> DeCSS was published in '99, yet it's still not easy for an average user (grandma) to duplicate a DVD.

Would ripping a DVD really be easier without the DRM, for an average user? To strip the DRM you just need to have libdvdcss (or whatever) installed, and your ripping software strips the DRM without you even knowing it's there. It's not much harder than ripping a CD.

HandBrake doesn't even tell you there's any DRM- it's completely transparent, more or less one button to rip.

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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Second this. While I do occasionally buy Kindle books, I only buy them as long as the DRM is straightforward to remove. The moment they get aggressive about DRM, it'll be the last time I ever buy one. I don't feel strongly enough about it to avoid books I want to read that are only available with DRM, but I do insist on having an unencumbered copy. And when a book is available from a source I know are good about not…

>The only form of "DRM" I don't mind are the e-book stores that provide you with a personalised copy that includes my name/e-mail, but otherwise leaves the book unprotected. And that also implies that you give up right of resale. I can sell a physical book after I have it. I can choose to write my name in there... Or not. Having my name plastered as you indicate is OK, means giving up my own guaranteed rights of resa…

That's fine with me - I never resell my books.

But yes, you need to keep it mind.

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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You make me wonder what I should do to preserve my Steam account now... Maybe there's some way to get a VM image of the computer in offline mode?

Steam DRM is even more trivially defeated than Amazon DRM. Drop 4 files in the game folder and run it.

Which four?

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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Orrrr support a non-DRM publisher. Ya know

Fuck no. Life is too short and literature matters too much to pass on good books and read worse ones just because of their publishers' DRM politics. Don't reward DRM-encumbered ebooks, sure. If you want to punish the publisher, just buy it used on paper or go to the library. But read the books you wanted to read in the first place.

I didn't say anything about not buying paper. I don't know how you extrapolated that.

I prefer books in print but those two philosophies can coexist. Get DRM-free e-material when appropriate, and print otherwise. I prefer manuals in searchable ebook form while books and novels are definitely more pleasing in print.

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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Citations please? I agree, but would like to have sources to back up my own observations.

Norway: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pi... UK: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/00590921141/dear-... US: http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/02/26/57-million-americ... Australia: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150722/06502731723/aussi...

Many thanks :)

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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EME requires a binary-blob decryption module. Imagine the scenario where the only browser that provides some function "X" that you use isn't one that a binary-blob is released for. For most people that don't care about "X", they'll go for the browser that supports EME. As the userbase becomes more widespread, why wouldn't a content owner want to DRM-enshroud their media? Everyone but the mainstream gets squeezed out,…

Everyone but the mainstream gets squeezed out, choice is reduced, and we're all worse off for it. But we're not all worse off for it. In fact, only a small minority who choose to be outside the mainstream are worse off for it. Making unusual choices sometimes means you don't enjoy the same opportunities as those who go with the flow, even as you perhaps enjoy advantages in other respects, and as unfortunate as it mig…

> But we're not all worse off for it. In fact, only a small minority who choose to be outside the mainstream are worse off for it.

But we are. Innovative ideas from fringe software tends to find its way back into more mainstream software.

> But here we're talking about being able to enjoy certain entertainment via one particular channel.

Well, and video information in general. Part of my argument was that if the technology makes it easy to "protect" content, and that becomes the standard expectation, things that shouldn't or don't need to be DRMed will be anyhow.

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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Steam DRM is even more trivially defeated than Amazon DRM. Drop 4 files in the game folder and run it.

Which four?

I don't dare look this up on a work machine, but a google in the general direction of "Steamworks emulator" should get you going. The files in question are modified Steamworks DLLs (x86 and x64), an info file that holds the Steam metadata for the game, and a launcher to read it.

Re: Lawsuit could be the beginning of the end for DRM

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Which four?

I don't dare look this up on a work machine, but a google in the general direction of "Steamworks emulator" should get you going. The files in question are modified Steamworks DLLs (x86 and x64), an info file that holds the Steam metadata for the game, and a launcher to read it.

Hrm. DDG shows one (unhelpful) result for that. Google sent me running in circles. Has this emulator been taken down?
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