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Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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What about the threat of the agency who secures the system simulateously compromising it in order to gain blackmail material on its user?

conspiracy theory.

Isn't it possible that there is sometimes conspiracy fact? That something is a conspiracy theory doesn't automatically invalidate it.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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This is a strange election. We have a Democrat who is pro-war, anti gay marriage, and backed by Saudis and wall Street.

It's between a republican who used to be a democrat and a democrat who used to be a republican. It's going to be odd.

Haha, but hilariously both democrats and republicans feel very strongly that we should all vote for one of the two. They know deep down that it's one party with two basically identical divisions, but they could never utter that fact aloud.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

I've almost entirely given up on conversations in HN threads, but the recent State Dept Inspector General's report concludes that after the server was found to be compromised, the staffers who found the issue were told to never speak of it again.

This wasn't just poor IT security, this was willful ignorance of the consequences of state secrets being in the open. It is incredibly likely she was targeted by foreign intelligence. And perhaps Russia found it useful that no one was talking about their impending invasion of Ukraine or Iran learned how desperate the administration was to cut a deal? There were a thousand ways this could have undercut US foreign policy, which has recently been disastrous (Like when Hillary hung up the phone on her Russian counterpart in 2012 when Russia was trying to negotiate a peaceful conclusion in Syria - according to the Wikileaks embassy cables).

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #154

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> prosecuted for this, feel free to name specific legal statues that were violated as well as which are misdemeanors or felonies.

18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f)

“Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both. “

Applying that to Hillary's case is a bit of a stretch. It's not like she was downloading all the confidential stuff at the White House and emailing it to herself. And anyone emailing to clintonemail.com would presumably guess that was going to the Clinton's email server.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

>Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone.

I have a very hard time believing that the 3rd (possibly 2nd) highest person in the US government couldn't get their IT requests fulfilled.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

> She is also supposedly not the first Secretary of State to have an arrangement of this nature.

Careful with the phrasing - it has been said others have used "private e-mail" but that is, to me, not the same as setting up a server and using it exclusively.

Do you know anybody with their own home email server?

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #207
post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

> She is also supposedly not the first Secretary of State to have an arrangement of this nature. Careful with the phrasing - it has been said others have used "private e-mail" but that is, to me, not the same as setting up a server and using it exclusively. Do you know anybody with their own home email server?

Maybe it was rhetorical but I know dozens of people with home email servers. I set up my first one, personally, in 1997.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #207

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> She is also supposedly not the first Secretary of State to have an arrangement of this nature. Careful with the phrasing - it has been said others have used "private e-mail" but that is, to me, not the same as setting up a server and using it exclusively. Do you know anybody with their own home email server?

Maybe it was rhetorical but I know dozens of people with home email servers. I set up my first one, personally, in 1997.

In context, that was implicitly "any previous US Secretary of State", not "any human being on Earth".

And I think the OIG report expressly said that Clinton was the only one to have done so.

OTOH, one could argue that a third party non-government, non-sanctioned, email system that the official does not control is potentially worse in many ways than a personal email server, as in the latter case the official at least in principal had control of retention and access and other aspects of the behavior of the system.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Not sure I'd agree. Seems like her voting record aligns more with neocons than liberals (war, traditional marriage, super predators, etc)

> Seems I'd love to hear a shred of fact on this, beause everything I've read that's researched it shows that's an absolute falsehood.

Was hawk: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-cl...

Hates equality: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/hillary-clinton-doma_us_562e7...

Lies on top of lies: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/now-know-hillary-lied-multiple...

Hard to believe she is a Democrat.

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