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Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by jamble »

amelius wrote: post #17

One of the supplements shown in the article is Deplin, which contains L-methylfolate, and supposedly helps with depression. Any ideas on how this supplement works? And how many people would benefit from it?

The supplement works best for those with an MTHFR gene defect, where the body does not create enough 5-MTHF (L-methylfolate). I have c677t heterozygous type mutation and I take 5mg of a generic brand. It helps with methylation process which is very complicated, so I won't try to paraphrase. There is a decent amount of information online you could read up on, though. I would not suggest 5-MTHF for people who do not have the genetic defect, though I imagine a very small dose per day may be helpful, but then again I am no doctor.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by larubbio »

ams6110 wrote: post #177
cookiecaper wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Do you feel that a consumer is responsible for what they put in their body? Of course. But the average consumer is not only at a disadvantage, they are regularly deceived into believing that unhealthy foods are in fact healthy. In reality, culpability is a complex calculation that passes through the farmer, the food processor, the manufacturer, the ad firm, the grocer, the consumer, and any other party involved in t…

The blame also rests with regulators like the FDA, who for decades promoted a food pyramid that was basically upside-down in terms of what was healthy; who for decades promoted that partially-hydroginated oils (trans-fats) were preferable to natural saturated fats; who encouraged a "low fat" diet that prompted food producers to substitute sugar for fat to make foods tasty and consumers to consume an unhealthy high-st…

Although the food pyramid as originally designed was modified at the request of food industry lobbyists out of fear it would hurt sales.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/09/invented-foo...

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by tim333 »

piquadrat wrote: post #41
cies wrote: post #14

> Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills ...and they want to "own" the water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_pb6r8VNWk

Can we stop this "Nestlé thinks water isn't a human right" BS already? http://www.nestle.com/ask-nestle/human-rights/answers/nestle... I'm far from being a fan of Nestlé, but there are better arguments against their conduct than a single quote from the CEO years ago, misquoted and out of context.

In the video the CEO says roughly people should have a right to 50-100L of clean water but not the right to fill a swimming pool because there isn't always enough for everyone to do that, which seems not unreasonable.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by tim333 »

folli wrote: post #56
ck2 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do think it is their right to buy publicly owned municipality water and then sell it back to the public. I mean with soda at least they are putting a few cents per gallon into it. There should be a truth-in-advertising law they makes the bottle labels say "filtered publicly owned water $1".

In my opinion, the blaming is very one-sided. I mean what kind of municipality sells such rights to a private entity?

The UK sold all it's water companies a while back. It sort of worked out but the bills went up.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by chrisbennet »

jrjr wrote: post #157
NetStrikeForce wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sugar removes acidity. I would add some sugar to home made tomato sauce sometimes. Sugar is bad, but it's got some qualities as well. The same could be said about many things we still eat/drink/breath, but the problem with sugar is that we just use too much of it.

sugar does not reduce acidity, it masks it. Bicarbonate of Soda reduces it, and brings the sugar already present to the fore. a micro pinch in the tomato sauce makes it bite less and reduces digestive acidity reflux from eating a tomato based meal(spag.sauce) jrjr

Thanks for the tip!

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Post by tdkl »

zwarag wrote: post #147
jensen123 wrote: post #72

The other day I went to buy some canned refried beans. When I read the label, I noticed that it contained refined sugar. WTF?!? There should be no need for sugar in refried beans! After recovering from the shock, I went to another grocery store, where I found refried beans without sugar. Why does this happen? Obviously, sugar tastes good. That has to be why companies add it to all sorts of things. However, if most pe…

> However, if most people were like me, ... My teacher always said: Imagine the most average american citizen. Then realize that half of the american population is dumber that. Really brings things in perspective.

He must've been a Carlin fan (American stand up comedian).

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by tdkl »

blowski wrote: post #13
nsajko wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would evidently be bad for people to be blobs of fat, remember that in WALL-E they couldn't even stand up. That level of physical impairment is awful whether you're mortally ill or not.

Why? If I value eating whatever I like above having a small waist, why would it be bad for me to be a blob of fat? The only reason I should lose weight is for health reasons, but if there's a magic pill that would remove that reason, then why should I care? I kind of agree with you, but I don't think it's immediately obvious.

You probably like breathing too.

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by tawpKek »

malz wrote: post #198
cisstrd wrote: post #155

Nestle is a very big company making all kinds of products, and since ever more people are following the health and fitness craze, there are so many people obsessed with health, they want to profit from it. They want to adjust their company in order to guarantee future profits, that's actually (a) the most normal thing in the world and (b) a form of following consumer's choice and wishes. I don't see how selling sugar…

My local drugstore sells both kinds of products too. If it's evil for Nestle, it's arguably even more evil for Walgreens, since that's where the consumer is making their purchasing decision.

You could draw a parallel between this and the tabacco free pharmacy push:

http://cvshealth.com/thought-leadership/cvs-health-perspecti...

Re: Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills

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Post by AndrewUnmuted »

cisstrd wrote: post #155

Nestle is a very big company making all kinds of products, and since ever more people are following the health and fitness craze, there are so many people obsessed with health, they want to profit from it. They want to adjust their company in order to guarantee future profits, that's actually (a) the most normal thing in the world and (b) a form of following consumer's choice and wishes. I don't see how selling sugar…

First of all, diabetes pills are not really 'health products.' They are more like 'you fucked up your health, now try not to die' products. Even Nestle's low-fat and low-sugar "foods" are a far cry from "health products." You are being disingenuous by conflating the two, or even for suggesting that Nestle is in the business of selling "health products."

Beyond that, however, I see a pretty big flaw in your reasoning here. Given your argument, can you not then extend your theory on guaranteeing future profits to also include the strategy of selling both the problem and the solution? This, too, is a very 'normal' thing for large, multi-national manufacturers of consumer goods to be engaged in.

Nestle, along with Coca Cola and Kroger, is a well-known corporate supporter of programs such as SNAP in the US, and is also one of the largest benefactors from said programs. I am a full-on capitalist, but that does not mean that we ought to give a pass to the morally-flawed existences of companies like Nestle, which leverage its influence in the State to reap greater profits.

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