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Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by simoncion »

porsupah wrote: post #161
scott_karana wrote: post #41

> Yes, San Francisco has been skipped again and I’m going to go cry into my slow internet from Comcast. I seriously still cannot get over how funny this is. SF pitches itself as the centre of the tech universe, and yet, it still hasn't "disrupted" its own crappy broadband infrastructure. (Much less the rest of the country's!) I'm sure there's many good reasons for Google passing them over, but that doesn't keep it fr…

Relatedly, AT&T will be rolling out gigabit service in San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland in 2016: http://www.mercurynews.com/san-francisco/ci_29214143/at-t-bi... The caveat, of course, being that not everyone in these cities will be covered.

> The caveat, of course, being that not everyone in these cities will be covered.

Nor will there ever be universal coverage in those cities. It'll be Fios all over again. (Assuming that ATT even actually deploys the service and this isn't just a zero-cost feint to prevent our City Supervisors from inviting Google Fiber into the city.)

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by pyvpx »

ccallebs wrote: post #97
jessedhillon wrote: post #87

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Have you written up this experience anywhere? I'd love to read that.

I second this. I'd love to know how ISP companies back then were operated.

a bit easier with less scale; otherwise identically to today.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by rayiner »

vdaniuk wrote: post #30
touchofevil wrote: post #21

I can't wait for this in LA. I'm currently paying $115 per month for 1Mbps/10Mbps for Time Warner "business class" internet-only service. My company does visual effects work, so I actually have to drive my video files home on a USB drive to upload them since my home connection is 20Mbps/200Mbps for $50 per month. The internet monopoly situation in the US is terrible for businesses here.

This is so ridiculous, it's literally unbelievable. My home city, Kiev(Ukraine), has multiple 1 Gbit residential broadband providers for $6 - $15. Not joking.

Most of the cost of deploying fiber is labor, and that costs 5-10x more in the U.S. Also, eastern European countries see fast Internet as a competitive advantage. American cities don't see the need.

I bet in Kiev, a fiber provider wanting to lay fiber wouldn't be turned down for not agreeing to wife up the poor neighborhoods that couldn't afford it any way. That's what happens here.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by vdaniuk »

rayiner wrote: post #203
vdaniuk wrote: post #30

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This is so ridiculous, it's literally unbelievable. My home city, Kiev(Ukraine), has multiple 1 Gbit residential broadband providers for $6 - $15. Not joking.

Most of the cost of deploying fiber is labor, and that costs 5-10x more in the U.S. Also, eastern European countries see fast Internet as a competitive advantage. American cities don't see the need. I bet in Kiev, a fiber provider wanting to lay fiber wouldn't be turned down for not agreeing to wife up the poor neighborhoods that couldn't afford it any way. That's what happens here.

Right, that's why Netherlands, Sweden and South Korea have similarly slow data transfer rates and high prices as US. /s

Also most high speed connections in Kiev are not fiber but ethernet cables.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by ceejayoz »

tomkinstinch wrote: post #185
ceejayoz wrote: post #23

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TWC coverage here in Rochester, NY is $84/month for 50Mbps. I'd guess you only get 6x the speed for less money in LA in places where fiber is a viable competitor.

I have gigabit fiber at my house in Rochester for $100/month via the new upstart ISP, Greenlight (actually their lower 500Mbps tier for $75/mo). They're expanding slowly, but they are expanding.

I'm drooling over Greenlight. Thus far they seem to be prioritizing high-density areas like apartment complexes, though. Down in Pittsford it's not looking hopeful for a few years at least.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by chiph »

platz wrote: post #49
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

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http://pols.uic.edu/political-science/chicago-politics > The Windy City has kept its crown as the most corrupt major city in the country over the last 40 years. But Houston is starting to give Chicago a run for its money. > According to new research released today by University of Illinois at Chicago political science professor Dick Simpson, there were 45 convictions for public corruption in 2013 (the latest year ava…

so the more convictions, the more corrupt?

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by logfromblammo »

RDeckard wrote: post #191
logfromblammo wrote: post #65

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Ex-Chicagoan here. This is absolutely, positively not a joke. I can probably come up with a half dozen schemes that would use the fiber build-out as a thinly-veiled excuse to bleed both Google and city residents. Let's try. 1. All network providers would be allowed to charge a new "infrastructure maintenance fee" to their customers. A fixed $2, plus 40% of the amount of the fee, would go to the city per customer-mont…

Stop giving them ideas!! ;)

You're kidding, right? Those are all inspired by actual things Chicago has done.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by Salgat »

adventured wrote: post #169
thrownaway2424 wrote: post #153

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It's a valuable exercise. My favorite example is that for the same cost as the Iraq War, the USA could have bought Canada.

That's actually amusing, but of course far off the mark. Iraq has a current price tag of $2 trillion (including benefits owed over time that were caused by the war). Both wars together are now at around $4 trillion, spanning the last 14 years. Canada would cost at least 20 times the Iraq war if you count land, financial + household + business assets and natural resources. Canadian households, including real estate, h…

I bet it would be very possible, since your essentially telling every citizen that you will pay the value of everything they own and much more to be a part of a different 1st world nation. Imagine someone telling you that they'd pay you $300,000 to consider your plot of land a part of the U.S. instead of Canada, and you still get to keep everything.

Re: Chicago and Los Angeles Are Next Up for Google Fiber

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Post by jgroszko »

logfromblammo wrote: post #207
RDeckard wrote: post #191

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Stop giving them ideas!! ;)

You're kidding, right? Those are all inspired by actual things Chicago has done.

What's the inspiration for 6? I know it's a running joke that evidence goes missing, but I don't think I've ever seen a news article about a specific instance in Chicago.
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