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Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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We have many like Google plus, twitter, linkedin, reddit and even hacker news (catering to a specific niche). Problem here is that too many people whom we may call "less tech savvy" won't leave FB. So, in order to stay "compatible" with them, we need to keep our FB accounts active!

None listed by you come even close to what Facebook offer to majority of users. Linkedin is work environment and people wont go personal there, Twitter is just status update thing that really tries to become something bigger but fail to see what people outside their user base want and Google Plus is a joke - I am to this day surprised that they created it as Facebook killer, not as LinkedIn killer since obviously it…

Same thing with Google Buzz before.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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I saw this pop up on /r/android yesterday and it made me and a couple friends sign up for Telegram, so I guess good job whatsapp on pushing more people towards Telegram. Streisand effect in action!

A reason not to use Telegram: https://oflisback.github.io/telegram-stalking/

You realize this is public front facing information right? You can see who is online in the app itself.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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I think this is a good opportunity to plug Signal. Telegram uses a non-standard DIY crypto protocol that already had attacks, its chats are not end to end encrypted by default, and Telegram stores all your messages in the cloud by default while deceptively advertising as a 'private' alternative. Signal / TextSecure on the other hand is encrypted by default, implements more thoroughly audited cryptography, and is reco…

unfortunately it isn't currently possible to use Signal on android without the gapps/google play store installed, which is a deal breaker (I'm not arguing about whether this makes sense or not from the developers' perspective, it's just a fact).

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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My suspicion woud be that they triggered some automated anti-spam system. Intentionally blocking your competitor in this situation doesn't seem like a good idea, it mostly generates publicity for them.

The Android APKs have been decompiled which confirmed this was completely intentional: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/01/whatsapp-is-blocking... > The smoking gun is a pattern match performed on any URL string that begins with the word 'telegram.' In the most recent version of the app, these strings are classified as a "bad host," so that no hyperlink is generated and it becomes impossible to copy or forward an…

Im lolling at the guy that tested "hitler.com" wtf? hahahaha

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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I don't think Telegram is something people who need security should be using, but this kind of stylistic shaming toward open-source projects is useless at best and harmful in most cases.

Maybe I'm wrong, but last time I checked, Telegram is not entirely "open source". The core part of the service is secret. Which kind of voids the whole 'open source' argument and actually makes this whole project doubly sneaky.. Also, open source does not automatically imply high quality or immunity from criticism. In this particular case, when people can be arrested or even executed for what they say (in some countr…

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Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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No desktop client. There's a Chrome App being worked on, but that's not an ideal setup. I really don't know why they aren't focuing on this, as it's absolutely the #1 issue whenever I talk to someone about Signal. Even the Chrome App packaged in a standalone Electron-like setup would be better. edit: Apparently alpha versions of NW.js now support running Chrome Apps. This could be interesting. https://groups.google.c…

WhatsApp doesn't have a desktop client either.

Telegram does (as well as a web client and mobile clients on iOS, Android, and Apple Watch).

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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No desktop client. There's a Chrome App being worked on, but that's not an ideal setup. I really don't know why they aren't focuing on this, as it's absolutely the #1 issue whenever I talk to someone about Signal. Even the Chrome App packaged in a standalone Electron-like setup would be better. edit: Apparently alpha versions of NW.js now support running Chrome Apps. This could be interesting. https://groups.google.c…

WhatsApp doesn't have a desktop client either.

I've been using Chit Chat on Mac which I find suits my needs (https://github.com/stonesam92/ChitChat), and which is essentially a wrapper around the web interface

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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This is IMO one of the greatest dangers of leaving those huge corporations like Facebook, Google, Amazon etc. unchecked - they're starting to attack competition by leveraging their primary products (Amazon blocking Chromecasts, Facebook censoring links and pages about their lawsuits are two latest cases) and are working deliberately against interests of greater public (and capitalism itself if we can stretch that :)…

You list three companies but only give examples for two.

Google devaluing the position of competitors like Yelp and TripAdvisor in search results for specific businesses.

http://www.eater.com/2015/11/25/9800584/google-burying-yelp-...

http://au.idigitaltimes.com/google-pushes-yelp-and-amazon-do...

http://www.fairsearch.org/yelp-ceo-stoppelman-criticizes-goo...

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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We have many like Google plus, twitter, linkedin, reddit and even hacker news (catering to a specific niche). Problem here is that too many people whom we may call "less tech savvy" won't leave FB. So, in order to stay "compatible" with them, we need to keep our FB accounts active!

- Google plus: that would be kind of pointless, wouldn't it? - LinkedIn: The worst of the worst ... :D - HN / Reddit / Twitter: How do you share pictures privately with friends? (to name one necessary feature)

> How do you share pictures privately with friends?

Flickr. Some of the holes in the group management are a weakness there (no albums in Groups, for example).

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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I think this is a good opportunity to plug Signal. Telegram uses a non-standard DIY crypto protocol that already had attacks, its chats are not end to end encrypted by default, and Telegram stores all your messages in the cloud by default while deceptively advertising as a 'private' alternative. Signal / TextSecure on the other hand is encrypted by default, implements more thoroughly audited cryptography, and is reco…

Are there any links that show those pieces of information about Telegram?

I just don't get it. How are there still people ignorant of this. How many times do moxie and tptacek have to repeat themselves?
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