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State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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And wholesale US intelligence failed also, either that or they kept the intelligence to themselves.

Or a fairly simple, and unfortunately satisfying, explanation; this attack is an official action intended to provide a political climate conducive to power consolidation. Too bad it smells like a conspiracy theory.

Too bad people still watch TV and get dog trained/brainwashed to stop thinking after hearing phrases like "conspiracy theory".

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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And here come the "Obviously this is going to happen, France is 10% muslim" posts. If you marginalize people, mistrust them, do not make an effort to integrate them, and make them feel like the only place where they are welcome is segregated communities, don't be surprised when they radicalize. This has happened all throughout history, and will continue without changes. Conservatives scream that Liberals are too soft…

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Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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> make sure that people in general have lots to lose especially those on the fringes of society What do you mean by this? It sounds a bit ominous, if you'll pardon me.

There is nothing ominous about it. A person that is happy, has a life and a means of self-support as well as a family is likely not going to be easily turned against society. On the other hand if every door you try to open is closed and you're being pushed into the corner of having 'nothing to lose' then you might be influenced in a negative way. So better to make sure people have plenty to lose.

Oh. Thank you for clarifying.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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It's not primarily a technology problem, but I think there are technological solutions which will help mitigate the harm to innocents. (There's also a whole suite of technology problems here solved via JDAMs and Hellfires, which seem to be actively being pursued.)

The primary cause of these incidents seems to be radicalization of segments of society with 'nothing to lose'. The societal problems involved in the creation of such segments and what can be done about them is a large and complex issue in which some technology will for sure be useful but which is first and foremost a people problem. The seeds for these issues were sown many years ago (and in quite a few cases with th…

Technology is a strong force multiplier for whatever potential "solutions" are, whether a person believes them to be increased surveillance, more open political processes, more cultural mingling etc.

Simply discounting the power of technology is short-sighted.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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Disappointed to see the comments downplaying the situation because as many people get killed in car accidents every week or whatever. Terrorist acts damage the social fabric far beyond the death toll. That's the whole point of terrorism.

Only because people let it. There is little danger form actual terrorism, but there is massive danger from people's reactions to terrorism.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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Disappointed to see the comments downplaying the situation because as many people get killed in car accidents every week or whatever. Terrorist acts damage the social fabric far beyond the death toll. That's the whole point of terrorism.

You have a point, but what kind of reaction do you want/expect?

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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I am French and have friends and family in Paris, fortunately they are all safe. I am however in shock and can't really process much except for shedding tears.

I feel the strong need to point out that in these difficult times in Europe and the world, we CANNOT allow right-wing political extremism to use them to gather power. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MUSLIMS, IMMIGRANTS OR WHATNOT. THIS IS ABOUT CRAZY PEOPLE.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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Only because people like you seem to think it's such a big deal. If people were to look at it as it is and comprehend the scope of the matter, it wouldn't damage the social fabric.

I don't agree. There's a stark difference between a car accident and a fellow human being pumping rounds into people in your local restaurant. The other driver is not trying to kill you typically.

Why does intention matter?
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