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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by elif » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:09 PM UTC

arel wrote: post #190

cdnsteve wrote: post #140

Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.

As a developer my first question would be: Can I dual boot linux on it? If so it would be an extremely attractive developer machine and switch to Windows when you need it. The hardware is the show stealer here.

yes. I run ubuntu on my surface pro. Everything works well, with reasonably good battery life (not as good as win10, obviously).

it is a painful install process, but that should change completely with ubuntu 15.10

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by slantyyz » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:10 PM UTC

midnightmonster wrote: post #180

togusa wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all there, just different. PowerShell = bash, Chocolatey = homebrew, Windows Server Containers = docker, Hyper-V+powershell = vagrant, DSC = ansible etc etc. I don't use Windows 10 for reference though. Still on 8.1 until they fix a few things and release a version-matched server platform.

So, no, developers on windows are not stumbling in the night. But also, no, your skills and familiarity are not transferable from OS X to Windows. In contrast, I was a desktop (laptop) Linux user until a year or so ago, and found my skills almost entirely transferable to OS X.

YMMV, when I switched from Mac to Windows last year, my skills were pretty much transferable.

The biggest aid was finding a terminal emulator that worked like Mac's Terminal.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by ebbv » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:10 PM UTC

saosebastiao wrote: post #147

I'll buy one if it can support Linux.

It's more of a question of if Linux can support the hardware.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by passive » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:10 PM UTC

I'll be the odd one out and say that I will miss the kickstand on the Surface Book. For me, the kickstand is what has made the SP3 into the best computing device I've ever used.

While a proper laptop will cover many of the same cases as the kickstand, there are times when the kickstand can function as a hook, allowing the surface to be used in positions a laptop simply wouldn't be practical.

Probably my favorite example is to hook the SP3 over my steering wheel (not while driving!), and allow the keyboard to drape down mostly vertically. Certainly not the most productive position, but for videoconferencing on the go, it's come in handy half a dozen times.

Another similar one is lying down with my knees up. The stand wedges it nicely between my legs, with the keyboard over my thighs. It's fairly comfortable, and pretty good for typing.

Otherwise, Surface Book looks terrific. :)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:10 PM UTC

eric_cc wrote: post #186

mholt wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would just install Linux on it.

Good luck getting the touch screen to work flawlessly with your Linux install

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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by ossreality » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:11 PM UTC

eric_cc wrote: post #186

mholt wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would just install Linux on it.

Good luck getting the touch screen to work flawlessly with your Linux install

Touch screens work great out of the box on every laptop I own under Linux and Gnome.

I love it when I can tell people that haven't used Linux based on the antiquated stereotypes they whip out smugly.

Oh dear god why was I un-hell-banned? Oh no, apparently just selected comments are unbanned...? Or else one of the mods accidentally upvoted my last post 12 times?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by voiceclonr » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:11 PM UTC

Page looks bad and it loads so slow! At some point, the msdn pages were awesomely fast and I would've imagined they spent more time on load testing for such a crucial day.

That aside, the product looks very interesting. I was a Windows user for a long time and switched to Mac in the last few years. This makes me want to give the newbie a try.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by jhugg » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:11 PM UTC

jhugg wrote: post #175

How much does the book’s base weigh? Why will no one tell me?

Starting at 3.34 lbs and 22.8mm thick. rMBP 13 is 3.48 lbs and 18mm thick.

Similar weight but the rMBP is a fair bit thinner.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by ebbv » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:11 PM UTC

I can't see giving up my 15" rMBP for this. Never have I ever wanted to take the screen off and use it as a tablet.

And when I've been forced by circumstance to do development on my Windows machine it's been at best awkward. (Basically trying to recreate a Unix like experience via Cygwin or what have you.)

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by jpeg_hero » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 5:11 PM UTC

the PC Makers and the windows OEM echo system deserves this.

msft and intel tried for years to bring them along... remember the "ultra book initiative?"

2011: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/09/ultrabook-intels-300-...

thinks got so bad that msft realizes that they've got to "make the whole widget" despite the reluctance to cannibalize the ecosystem. (we ship gold masters, not pcs)