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Re: Meet Model X

#201

So with the falcon wing doors you couldn't open up passenger seats in your standard garage. I'd suspect people who could afford this wouldn't have a standard garage anyways though.

He showed it in a standard garage setup, but I would fear my garage door opener would be in the way... Hopefully the ultrasonic sensors would see the garage door opener and not hit it.

Re: Meet Model X

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Cool as this is, the only thing that sketches me out is the "automatic braking" feature. If I go to avoid something and it slams on the brakes, isn't that going to totally change my trajectory possibly causing an accident? Or a false positive causing heavy braking which someone could be surprised by and overcorrect for causing an accident?

That is a feature, which is standard for any premium car brand. Just wondering, why the Tesla S didn't hat this feature in the first place.

Re: Meet Model X

#203

Roughly estimated carbon production of manufacturing (I got these numbers from a german discussion, one source for battery carbon production is: http://www.focus.de/auto/experten/duennes/oekobilanz-von-ele... ): ------------------------------------------ VW Polo GTI: 2 tons BMW M5: 2,5 tons BMW I3: 4 tons Tesla Modell X 13 tons Manufacturing + 100.000km: -------------------------- BMW I3 -> 9,6 tons VW Polo GTI -> 18…

It's not fair to compare the Model X to a Sedan. Do you have numbers for other SUVs? Remember the idea here is that it's assumed you'll be buying a car already. Also, even if the total lifetime carbon was equal, it's still better to buy a vehicle that produces all that carbon in localized places where it could possibly be captured instead of all over crowded urban areas.

Why isn't fair to compare Model X to a Sedan ? It IS basically a sedan.

It isn't a Landrover style SUV that you could legitimately take off road.

Re: Meet Model X

#204

>> 5,000lb towing capacity Curious as to what happens to the range when you're towing a pair of jetskis.

Just enough from the garage to the boathouse probably. Seriously I can see the numbers going down to 150mi range. Just a guess.

I'd expect less than half. The drag of a pair of jet skis is going to be significantly more than the X itself. Perfect use for me though. I drive 500 miles then need to put a boat in the water. My available high efficiency cars can't do the last two miles with a boat, so sometimes I have to drive a full sized pickup truck instead.

Re: Meet Model X

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As i mentioned there are many car makers which have these things since years. And they are much cheaper. Just look at the websites what you can buy from BMW, Daimler etc.

Because they also have cars for much longer too? Tesla had (and has) to solve a difficult problem. The manufacturers you mention are all using standard internal combustion engines. Is it surprising that the can focus their attention elsewhere?

I think autonomous driving is first priority for Tesla. So I wonder.

Re: Meet Model X

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Roughly estimated carbon production of manufacturing (I got these numbers from a german discussion, one source for battery carbon production is: http://www.focus.de/auto/experten/duennes/oekobilanz-von-ele... ): ------------------------------------------ VW Polo GTI: 2 tons BMW M5: 2,5 tons BMW I3: 4 tons Tesla Modell X 13 tons Manufacturing + 100.000km: -------------------------- BMW I3 -> 9,6 tons VW Polo GTI -> 18…

Source?

Sorry. I have only a german source:

http://www.focus.de/auto/experten/duennes/oekobilanz-von-ele...

Re: Meet Model X

#207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It accelerates faster (3.2 to 4.1). It has a lower top speed (155mph to 176mph).

Unless you live in Germany you're not really ever going to hit that top speed. You will however have ample chance to take advantage of the acceleration.

The above poster is drawing a distinction between faster (top speed) and quicker (acceleration). Auto-journalism usually uses this language. In everyday speech, "faster" is ambiguous.

Re: Meet Model X

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> bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants Ever drove past a skunk corpse ? Only happened to me a few times when I traveled in the USA - still have PTSD...

" To qualify as HEPA by US government standards, an air filter must remove (from the air that passes through) 99.97% of particles that have a size of 0.3 µm." That means bacteria (1-10 µm) and spores (~1 µm) but not virusses (~ 100 nm +/- a lot) and certainly not molecules emitted by a skunk corpse.

Its activated charcoal filter has the primary layer, a secondary layer that filters sulfur gases, and a tertiary layer that filters alkaline gases.

Skunk spray is made primarily of thiols and their acetate derivatives. Thiols (the main ugly smelling ones are both thiols) are organosulfur compounds, and would be filtered by the secondary chemical filter.

The gases that make the decaying corpse smell are acidic (AFAIK), so would be filtered by the tertiary layer.

Re: Meet Model X

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See the Model S, which also competes with many, quality sedans from Mercedes, BMW etc.

If you look at pricing the Model S is more competing with the likes of Aston Martin. Mercedes, BMW are targeting the premium middle class market especially with the new A and 1 series respectively.

That's one way to look at it. Another way is that they've been serving the upper-class automobile market for decades and have been recently introducing cheaper models.

A C-class with options will run you $50k now, and $65k on an E which has long been their bread and butter car.

I'm less familiar w/ the BMW family but I'm sure it's similar.

So I think Tesla is absolutely competing with Mercedes and BMW, though certainly their most high-end models are competing with world class cars of any nameplate.

Re: Meet Model X

#210

I love the falcon wing doors but what about when it's raining? That might be a stupid question but...

It's actually superior in the rain because the doors offer rain protection from above when they are open.

Assuming the rain is coming straight down. Wind would push in the rain just as with any other door.
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