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Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Also parents who's kids accidentally stumble upon a site for predators. It's a tool that can be used for good or bad, but will depend on the parents.

That's true, but I can't justify this being enabled by default. As something parents can turn on if they feel they need to, sure, but not like this.

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Site seems overloaded. Here are the KB links from an earlier discussion ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10110316 ). Thanks vetinari. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3068708 https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3075249 https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3080149 Also found: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/2976978

Quick check if you have any of these installed:

systeminfo|findstr /LI "3068708 3075249 3080149 2976978"

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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post #170

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Also parents who's kids accidentally stumble upon a site for predators. It's a tool that can be used for good or bad, but will depend on the parents.

Heck, mistype a website name and accidentally get a porn site (ala the old whitehouse.com) and get in trouble.

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Not sure why this is being down-voted. Just trying to be helpful in case people want to avoid these optional updates or uninstall them. Maybe I should just delete the comment?

That helpful comment got two downvotes and well over a hundred upvotes. This is an extreme example of why HN has a guideline asking people not to comment about being downvoted. Most of the fluctuation is ephemeral, and most comments about it soon become inaccurate. We've detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10110543 and marked it off topic.

sorry :(

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Ask and ye shall receive: http://imgur.com/eeBtcIw Bear in mind that it's nearly empty because we'd only just recently upgraded to Windows 10, but note that it has an entry for "Latest searches". Wouldn't that be one hell of a way for a kid to come out of the closet to his parents, or for someone to find out their daughter's pregnant? Consider that this data is linked to each kid's email address. When this database i…

No. The schools provide laptops to the kids. And then make them "kid accounts". Then the school process all of those reports and punishes based on them... or sells them to advertising firms.

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Sounds too crazy to believe. If true, I think I would be forced to stop using windows all together.

are you using google or facebook? might want to consider dropping those, too.

It's expected for Internet-based services that make their living on advertising. It is not expected for my operating system.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Microsoft has already raised our suspicions by offering Windows 10 upgrades for free. As a result, we're perfectly primed to believe the worst about these updates.

Microsoft needs to do something convincing to reassure it's users or Windows 10 will likely become synonymous with "Big Brother" regardless of what's actually going on.

To reiterate, we're leaving territory in which it would have been reasonable to "do nothing and hope it all blows over". MS needs to respond quickly or they're going to have another dud release on their hands, in spite of giving it away for free.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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post #203

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Heck, mistype a website name and accidentally get a porn site (ala the old whitehouse.com) and get in trouble.

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Probably, but the news is quite full of "zero discussion" parents, plus we are talking about reports that now go to schools with those pesky zero tolerance policies.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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post #201

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That's true, but I can't justify this being enabled by default. As something parents can turn on if they feel they need to, sure, but not like this.

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Automatically spying on kids without their knowledge if their parents upgrade the computer to Windows 10... seems reasonable to you?

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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I submitted a story to Boing Boing (at http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html ) about the weird experience I had after upgrading my son's laptop from Windows 8.1 to 10. We did this on a Saturday, and Monday morning I had a "family safety report" email from Microsoft detailing which websites he'd visited, which apps he'd used (and for how long), etc. since the upgrade . According to Microsoft's Family Safety…

By default, unless you log in and explicitly disable it, Windows 10 collects kids' usage activity and uploads it to Microsoft's servers. Presumably the same mechanism is disabled for adults. Presumably. And this is legal under COPPA? If so, the law needs to be fixed sooner rather than later.

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