Interestingly, this seems to have been accidental. UUIDs were generated using MAC addresses to ensure some uniqueness, but I guess nobody ever realised the implications.
Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
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Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#22I just got a new PC with Windows 10, replacing an older PC laptop that's a Windows 7 / Ubuntu dual-boot. (I'm running Ubuntu from a VM this time.) Anyway, Windows 10: I was a bit shocked at all the information it sends back to Microsoft. As soon as the setup screen comes up, it gives you an option to choose "Express Install" or "Custom Install". I chose "Custom Install", and there were about 10 privacy settings that…
It is actually a very similar list to that seen in Windows 8. Windows 8 was a little bit more sneaky however, when you chose custom they were all disabled but if you select express they were enabled.
You haven't done all the things necessary to defend your privacy yet, Windows 10 has spread this stuff all over the operating system, its all enabled by default and you need to find it all.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#23This is a stupid comparison, If thats the intention to compare it to how and what the internet is used for today. get off the hate train. you want to hate Microsoft, you had best hate Google, Apple and many other companies out there
And we do. Hating on Microsoft in no way diminishes hate for all of the other violators. Hate is not governed by the laws of thermodynamics, there is enough warranted hate in the universe for them all, and then some.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#24Switched from Microsoft products in 1999, back when Palladium started. That was offensive enough. This is downright disgusting. I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. Seems even I underestimated with Windows 10.
>I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems.
You do realize we live in an era of smartphones, facebook and cloud services. Those liberties have been given up already. Window is looking downright open these days.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#25Switched from Microsoft products in 1999, back when Palladium started. That was offensive enough. This is downright disgusting. I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. Seems even I underestimated with Windows 10.
>I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. You do realize we live in an era of smartphones, facebook and cloud services. Those liberties have been given up already. Window is looking downright open these days.
Accurate but irrelevant. The point is not to adapt to the "new normal", but to reject it and demand a higher standard.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. You do realize we live in an era of smartphones, facebook and cloud services. Those liberties have been given up already. Window is looking downright open these days.
Accurate but irrelevant. The point is not to adapt to the "new normal", but to reject it and demand a higher standard.
> The point is not to adapt to the "new normal", but to reject it and demand a higher standard
Most people don't care. Features are more important than FOSS when consumer software is concerned.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#27Switched from Microsoft products in 1999, back when Palladium started. That was offensive enough. This is downright disgusting. I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. Seems even I underestimated with Windows 10.
First post here. I've been lurking for a few months. So, hello.
I'm ashamed of myself for exactly this reason. It's no better than smoking. I know it's not good for me but I keep doing it out of apathy and convenience. I know my way around a Linux machine well and have a few production nodes under my command but they never make it to the desktop. There's always some proprietary protocol in the way be it a VPN, remote desktop connection or product I have to integrate with. I'd really love to just shake it tomorrow.
It's harder to walk away than not to get into this situation in the first place. Now it's a burden.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#28I just got a new PC with Windows 10, replacing an older PC laptop that's a Windows 7 / Ubuntu dual-boot. (I'm running Ubuntu from a VM this time.) Anyway, Windows 10: I was a bit shocked at all the information it sends back to Microsoft. As soon as the setup screen comes up, it gives you an option to choose "Express Install" or "Custom Install". I chose "Custom Install", and there were about 10 privacy settings that…
It is actually a very similar list to that seen in Windows 8. Windows 8 was a little bit more sneaky however, when you chose custom they were all disabled but if you select express they were enabled. You haven't done all the things necessary to defend your privacy yet, Windows 10 has spread this stuff all over the operating system, its all enabled by default and you need to find it all.
Is there a checklist available on the settings people might perceive as privacy violation, their operational implication, and howto disable it?
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#29Switched from Microsoft products in 1999, back when Palladium started. That was offensive enough. This is downright disgusting. I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. Seems even I underestimated with Windows 10.
>I always ask co-workers how much liberty Windows users are willing to sacrifice to continue using their systems. You do realize we live in an era of smartphones, facebook and cloud services. Those liberties have been given up already. Window is looking downright open these days.
Windows is not really open, has never has been and never will be. In fact it is getting worse. There's always a black box at the bottom of every stack trace, a secret in every corner and a cost to every solution be it time or money.
Users, myself included, use it because we're stuck.
Re: Microsoft to Alter Software in Response to Privacy Concerns (1999)
#30This is a stupid comparison, If thats the intention to compare it to how and what the internet is used for today. get off the hate train. you want to hate Microsoft, you had best hate Google, Apple and many other companies out there
And we do. Hating on Microsoft in no way diminishes hate for all of the other violators. Hate is not governed by the laws of thermodynamics, there is enough warranted hate in the universe for them all, and then some.
But there's a bit more to it than that.
The marketplace has apparently decided privacy is not worth paying for.
Microsoft is conceding this point.
Perhaps what the market values can be adjusted by creeping people out on a personal level by demonstrating just how much information they are giving away?
Or perhaps the market is revealing that privacy in general has very little value?
(Same issue with open computing vs. closed devices)