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Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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> You should have savings to cover at least 4 months of > your usual expenses. You will spend some money > establishing a company. It may take several weeks to > find your first contract. If you wanted to be extra safe, sure. I made the switch when I was heavily in debt, and it helped me get out of debt, so YMMV. > A service like www.formationsfactory.co.uk will make the > incorporation process easy. Actually it's su…

> change how dividend tax works Is there a good summary you would recommend for accountancy-challenged developers? Should we get any leftovers in business bank account out through more dividends now and accrue higher personal income tax or wait and see?

There isn't much you can do really. The overall increase in annual tax is not going to be that big. If my calculations are correct, if you want to pay yourself ~100k per year you'll end up paying 2-3% more tax.

https://www.crunch.co.uk/blog/contractor-advice/2015/07/09/w...

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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> You should have savings to cover at least 4 months of > your usual expenses. You will spend some money > establishing a company. It may take several weeks to > find your first contract. If you wanted to be extra safe, sure. I made the switch when I was heavily in debt, and it helped me get out of debt, so YMMV. > A service like www.formationsfactory.co.uk will make the > incorporation process easy. Actually it's su…

Agree with pretty much everything.

Recruiters are annoying but some companies will only hire contractors through recruiters so it's worth spending a little time dealing with them (but don't hesitate to stop talking to any that isn't professional, there are plenty others).

For the rate it depends on the language and the industry as well, java in finance is always going to be higher than python in a startup but if it's below 300/350 you can walk away.

I stopped being a contractor last year, i'll have to check those dividend tax changes

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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The old discussion is now closed. You should be aware that there is no obligation for limited companies to have a business bank account. However, it is usually a good idea to have one. Furthermore, you don't need to be a UK resident to open a business bank account but most banks will not deal with you due to higher costs and fraud concerns. P.S. your company does not require a UK-based bank account. You can open a bu…

You will find some agencies insist on a company bank account.

I don't why people find it so hard to setup ltd and + bank accounts. I know 18 yo who do this for there small business. It isn't hard. Accountant will sort most of it.

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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> You should have savings to cover at least 4 months of > your usual expenses. You will spend some money > establishing a company. It may take several weeks to > find your first contract. If you wanted to be extra safe, sure. I made the switch when I was heavily in debt, and it helped me get out of debt, so YMMV. > A service like www.formationsfactory.co.uk will make the > incorporation process easy. Actually it's su…

Does anyone have any experience with a company like Giant or similar? Do they allow contractors who remote work?

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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> You should have savings to cover at least 4 months of > your usual expenses. You will spend some money > establishing a company. It may take several weeks to > find your first contract. If you wanted to be extra safe, sure. I made the switch when I was heavily in debt, and it helped me get out of debt, so YMMV. > A service like www.formationsfactory.co.uk will make the > incorporation process easy. Actually it's su…

Agree with pretty much everything. Recruiters are annoying but some companies will only hire contractors through recruiters so it's worth spending a little time dealing with them (but don't hesitate to stop talking to any that isn't professional, there are plenty others). For the rate it depends on the language and the industry as well, java in finance is always going to be higher than python in a startup but if it's…

What made you do the switch back to permanent?

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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> change how dividend tax works Is there a good summary you would recommend for accountancy-challenged developers? Should we get any leftovers in business bank account out through more dividends now and accrue higher personal income tax or wait and see?

It depends on what your strategy is and the specifics of your situation. http://www.contractoruk.com/money/ifas_guide_avoiding_new_di... has a generic guide about the new dividend tax. IMHO, just get an accountant.

I have a popular one, and they are rubbish. I'm on my first contract and I have no idea what I'm doing tax-wise. After £10.6k in salary they say one could take £28.5k in dividends before higher tax kicks in. So what do people do with the rest? Accept hight tax or leave it in business bank account and wait for next tax year?

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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Very true. Also the advice about marketing yourself is crap. Recruiters are the #1 way of landing contracts. They're finders and you're paying a finders fee for that service. They have the big guys with oodles of cash to get hold of. If you can't get a gig through a recruiter then you either don't have skills that are in demand or don't come across as someone who they'd want to sell. If you don't go through the recru…

> If you don't go through the recruiters, you end up being left with the cheap arse companies that won't pay up anyway. I've never used a recruiter, the companies I work for paid pretty good and I had one unpaid bill in a couple of decades. Building your own network and getting rid of recruiters as your main source of income is very important to new contract programmers. For one they take a cut and for another they w…

This echoes my thoughts and experience, all the while I was contracting I could easily find new work through word of mouth. The few recruiters I talked to seemed happy to waste my time (and their own).

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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The old discussion is now closed. You should be aware that there is no obligation for limited companies to have a business bank account. However, it is usually a good idea to have one. Furthermore, you don't need to be a UK resident to open a business bank account but most banks will not deal with you due to higher costs and fraud concerns. P.S. your company does not require a UK-based bank account. You can open a bu…

> You can open a business bank account in your country in the name of your LTD company in the UK. You will need to have your company documents (Certificate of Incorporation and Memorandum & Articles of Association) apostilled.

I'm wondering if opening an LTD is even really needed in this case, what about people that already have a company or similar(sole trader) for this purpose in their own country? Have someone had any experience with this approach? Or has any idea about how it could be perceived?

Re: Becoming a contractor programmer in the UK

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Agree with pretty much everything. Recruiters are annoying but some companies will only hire contractors through recruiters so it's worth spending a little time dealing with them (but don't hesitate to stop talking to any that isn't professional, there are plenty others). For the rate it depends on the language and the industry as well, java in finance is always going to be higher than python in a startup but if it's…

What made you do the switch back to permanent?

I started my own agency with a couple of friends (link in profile)
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