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Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by roel_v » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:49 AM UTC

NietTim wrote: post #18

I'm sorry but, 400 bucks is cheap now? It's a great phone for the price, don't get me wrong, but I think 400 bucks is a lot of money.

Well it's not a lot (as in 'a lot lot') of money for large amounts of people, especially amongst those who would buy a phone that you can only buy online and for which you need to go through an 'invite' system. "Cheap" is always a relative concept, so I'm not sure what it is you're complaining about.

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by tudborg » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:50 AM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #10

Disappointed with the invite system again. Did the first version no sell well enough?

The opposite. To little supply for the demand. They used the invites to "throttle" the purchase rate to be able to keep up. They probably thought an invite system was a better aproach than a weekly free-for-all aka. SuiciDDOS against the webshop. Hopefully, this time supply will be significantly higher, meaning the invite system will be removed as soon as they know they can keep up with demand.

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by rtpg » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:50 AM UTC

NietTim wrote: post #18

I'm sorry but, 400 bucks is cheap now? It's a great phone for the price, don't get me wrong, but I think 400 bucks is a lot of money.

Flagship phones for other brands are usually in the $700 range. So it's cheap for a flagship at least..

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by darklajid » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:50 AM UTC

4lun wrote: post #9

No NFC, which seems like an odd choice. Wonder how much that shaved off the manufacturing cost. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/07/27/oneplus-says-it-drop...

Whoa, that's a nice find. That breaks the yubikey setup with OpenKeyChain. That's rather unfortunate...

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by dingaling » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:52 AM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #10

Disappointed with the invite system again. Did the first version no sell well enough?

I think it's more to do with manufacturing and inventory management. With the invitation system they can smooth-out demand and prevent peaks until manufacturing is well underway.

Of course one of the ways in which it smooths demand is to turn people away; I was interested in a Meizu Ubuntu phone until I learned I had to 'compete' for the privilege of giving them my money.

Same with the original OPO, by the time I won an invitation ( after waiting several months ) I had gone and bought an LG G3.

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by tudborg » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:55 AM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #17

I'm completely disappointed with the way phone market evolves. I don't want a cheap phone, I want a phone that works. I want my phone to have enough memory and processing power to handle its operating system without hiccups. It is ridiculous that even a $700 phone can just start lagging on you. I want my phone to have it all - Bluetooth, WiFi, IrDA, accelerometer, thermometer, barometer, SD card, double SIM, removabl…

Althought that might be your preference, I'm fairly certain very few people feel the same. I too want a phone that "works", but I'd never pay $1000+. I can live with some sacrifices if i can get a Good Enough phone for ~$400. And imo, OnePlus One is fits the bill quite well. I was sceptical about no SD card and the non-removable battery, but when the battery lasts for days, and i have 64GB eMMC and online backup, I found I don't need those things anyway.

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by rikkus » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:57 AM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #17

I'm completely disappointed with the way phone market evolves. I don't want a cheap phone, I want a phone that works. I want my phone to have enough memory and processing power to handle its operating system without hiccups. It is ridiculous that even a $700 phone can just start lagging on you. I want my phone to have it all - Bluetooth, WiFi, IrDA, accelerometer, thermometer, barometer, SD card, double SIM, removabl…

It doesn't matter about the memory and processing power. The hiccups are down the the OS, not the hardware.

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by pja » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:58 AM UTC

bruceb wrote: post #2

The competitiveness of the Android handset market gets even more brutal. 4.7" to 5.5" is flooded with phones that are that are $199-$399. This is not including models that are 12+ months old that are discounted but still have solid specs.

Heck, my Nexus 4 is still perfectly usable. The only real motivation for me to upgrade is LTE (which has finally rolled out to my city in the UK).

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by hellweaver666 » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 7:58 AM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #17

I'm completely disappointed with the way phone market evolves. I don't want a cheap phone, I want a phone that works. I want my phone to have enough memory and processing power to handle its operating system without hiccups. It is ridiculous that even a $700 phone can just start lagging on you. I want my phone to have it all - Bluetooth, WiFi, IrDA, accelerometer, thermometer, barometer, SD card, double SIM, removabl…

Keep dreaming. The sad fact is, the majority of consumers do not even know what half of those features are for let alone need them. We, the techies of the world do not define these products any more - our mothers, uncles and children do (and all they want to do is take acceptable looking selfies, share them and send the odd text message.

Re: The OnePlus 2 pushes the boundaries of how cheap a flagship phone can be

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Post by johnm1019 » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 8:07 AM UTC

4lun wrote: post #9

No NFC, which seems like an odd choice. Wonder how much that shaved off the manufacturing cost. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/07/27/oneplus-says-it-drop...

I'm guessing it was more related to the 'feature' of having replaceable backplates.