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Maybe it's just me, but these blue dudes are not quite out of the uncanny valley.
Maybe it's just me, but these blue dudes are not quite out of the uncanny valley.
A marker of how far we are through the uncanny valley is how close to human the creatures are that we are asked to believe in. Gollum in LOTR looked abhuman because well, he was supposed to. Humanoid blue aliens are easier to "get right" than actual humans because nobody really knows how they are supposed to look and act.
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A marker of how far we are through the uncanny valley is how close to human the creatures are that we are asked to believe in. Gollum in LOTR looked abhuman because well, he was supposed to. Humanoid blue aliens are easier to "get right" than actual humans because nobody really knows how they are supposed to look and act.
I have seen plenty of CGI pictures on the other side of the uncanny valley. The problem seems to be motion and lighting.
Looks like this 3-D camera he developed has been used in films before. Why didn't they change film forever? Do we expect to enter a new era where everyone uses James Cameron's insane attention to detail in order to make a headdress look realistic, or develop a new language and teach it to actors? The article smells of hype and seems to justify this long-delayed epic "to out-Lucas Lucas." I'm no film buff, but the cin…
We get it. It looks cool and somewhat life-like. Now can you please show us something that's designed to evoke a response other than cooing in delight of your wonderful technical achievements? We live in a world where people know nothing about cinema except what they see on commercials during the Simpsons. When you make a trailer, you're convincing the masses. You expect cinephiles to ignore trailers anyway. It's the…
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=991197
Oh well. Still glad to see that people get to read it. I was especially impressed by push in technology that Cameron has made. I had no idea he was behind a lot of the push to get 3D projectors installed in theaters and how much he did to influence the creation of the 3D cameras used in filming this and other movies. There are many technical accomplishments that have been made with this film that most people watching it will never know (or care) about.
I don't see why this "Could change film forever". This is just an advert for a movie.
This (long) New Yorker profile of Cameron might be more interesting to some Hacker News readers. It focuses less on the tech, and more on Cameron's personality and career: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/26/091026fa_fact_... It paints him as a sort of Steve Jobs figure, with a really incredible drive to create and succeed, often at the expense of all else. > She wanted to get married, but Cameron, she says…
The most fascinating part of this whole thing to me is having the chance to see the movie after having read the 'scriptment' over 5 years ago. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/8/73755/86297 provided the link, though I'm not finding the document online any longer. (BTW, the link is worth visiting for a few other interesting scripts--for instance, a version of "I Am Legend". http://www.horrorlair.com/moviescripts_a…
Maybe it's just me, but these blue dudes are not quite out of the uncanny valley.
The blue dudes are very human-like, yet are not humans. Therefore, even if you saw them in real life, they would be in the "uncanny valley." The real uncanny valley only applies to attempted depictions of humans. Heck, a shorn chimpanzee is practically in the same uncanny valley as the blue dudes.
In my experience the same reaction, though sometimes muted, applies to just about any living thing Hollywood attempts to computer generate. I can't remember having ever seen a convincing depiction of a dog, cat, or even insect for that matter.
It's entirely possible that an alien humanoid biological creature would appear to be obviously living to us in the same way as other non-human animals, and thus subject to the same "uncanny valley."
The technology associated with film-making has evolved incrementally ever since its inception: from the 1890's Edison Kinetoscope shorts that could be watched by only one person at a time to the 2-reeler comedy shorts circa 1915 to D.W. Griffith's breakthrough with silent feature-length films in Birth of a Nation to the first talkies with 1927's The Jazz Singer to the introduction of color in select 1920's movies suc…
Big dumb blockbusters have a quality of their own. Big budgets & mass appeal can easily seem to demand a bland inoffensiveness, but so don't watch them if you're in the mood for a smarter movie. There are still a few out there. And calling out for a time when films were Quality just strikes me as convenient nostalgia, ignoring past crap.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
A marker of how far we are through the uncanny valley is how close to human the creatures are that we are asked to believe in. Gollum in LOTR looked abhuman because well, he was supposed to. Humanoid blue aliens are easier to "get right" than actual humans because nobody really knows how they are supposed to look and act.
I have seen plenty of CGI pictures on the other side of the uncanny valley. The problem seems to be motion and lighting.