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Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by xiaomai »

evmar wrote: post #16

Chrome used GTK2 as that was current at the time, and when we looked into GTK3 we concluded that it'd be a pain to target both simultaneously (the point of the new major version number is that the API changed) and that as long as we were supporting old distros (e.g. "Long Term Support" versions) we should keep GTK2. These days, those older versions are dying away, but Chrome doesn't use much GTK anyway. I wonder how…

It's a real shame chrome moved away from GTK. Aura is probably fine for many use cases but it does weird stuff on multi-monitor setups (drawing artifacts and windows jumping around).

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by keithpeter »

__david__ wrote: post #5
whoopdedo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"oh no" that Firefox is dropping support for a slightly older technology (again)? "oh no" that GTK2 is a sinking ship that everyone is fleeing from? or do you mean "oh no" that Firefox is going to be at the center of yet another incendiary (and ultimately fruitless) debate. Because I can agree that any one of those is a good reason to say "oh no".

I've been out of the gtk loop for a while now—I built a couple apps on gtk2 back in the day. What is wrong with gtk3? Why would this be controversial at all?

Good question.

Suppose I have a KDE based desktop which I gather uses qt as the widget library. Am I going to have another subset of libraries to run Firefox?

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by babuskov »

cjsthompson wrote: post #7
__david__ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been out of the gtk loop for a while now—I built a couple apps on gtk2 back in the day. What is wrong with gtk3? Why would this be controversial at all?

Gtk+ 3 is part of the modern degenerate conspiracy along with systemd and other abominations such as kdbus to destroy Linux by straying from the time-honored ancestral traditions of UNIX which were devised when men were still true hardworking men, that spent hours of sweat and tears configuring their window managers and compiling kernel modules as was ordained by the ancients.

Do you have a blog? I like the way you write and would like to read more.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by scrollaway »

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared.

Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by ossreality »

andor wrote: post #20
chrismorgan wrote: post #15

And https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958868 indicates that it has true smooth scrolling. That is, in my opinion, the poster feature for upgrading to GTK+ 3.

It does. The GTK3 version of Firefox already shipped with Fedora 21 (last December), and has been scrolling very smoothly ever since.

No, it doesn't.

"smooth scrolling" != "continuous scrolling"

and no fedora 21 didn't ship what is still a fairly experimental feature of firefox

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by mappu »

scrollaway wrote: post #24

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

>we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments

What project are you working on?

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by JoshTriplett »

keithpeter wrote: post #22
__david__ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been out of the gtk loop for a while now—I built a couple apps on gtk2 back in the day. What is wrong with gtk3? Why would this be controversial at all?

Good question. Suppose I have a KDE based desktop which I gather uses qt as the widget library. Am I going to have another subset of libraries to run Firefox?

You would whether Firefox used GTK+2 or GTK+3.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by rockdoe »

scrollaway wrote: post #24

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

IIRC the ones working on it were some leftover Nokia people. Nokia...I guess that answers your question, right?
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