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Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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post #12

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But that extra time spent sleeping is time spent not being awake to do things. So the overall number of useful hours is the same either way?

The longer you live, the better become available treatments in the meantime to make your life even longer. ;)

The longer you live in the UK, the greater the chance the NHS will be gone and you won't be able to afford treatment. :-) Coming soon: https://www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/richard-grimes/governme...

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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"Spending 25% more time sleeping increases your life expectancy by 25%." Awesome.

But that extra time spent sleeping is time spent not being awake to do things. So the overall number of useful hours is the same either way?

> So the overall number of useful hours is the same either way?

No, because dreaming is useful and fun. Even more so if you can cultivate lucid dreaming.

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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"Spending 25% more time sleeping increases your life expectancy by 25%." Awesome.

But that extra time spent sleeping is time spent not being awake to do things. So the overall number of useful hours is the same either way?

> But that extra time spent sleeping is time spent not being awake to do things. So the overall number of useful hours is the same either way?

Am I the only person that likes sleeping and dreaming? If I were to suddenly find sleep impossible and unnecessary, I would consider that a reduction in my quality of life.

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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I once, involuntary, went without sleep for around 72 hours. I was at a music festival and we were either pulling through the night or I couldn't sleep because of the noise. When the time came to go home, I really felt pretty good. At that time I had been awake for around 60 hours. My body was tired and my thinking was a bit sluggish, but nothing too bad... Until I got home and tried to sleep. By then I was feeling d…

That's a crazy story, I could never imagine myself not sleeping for 72 hours!! When I mess up my sleeping schedule pretty bad (which happened a lot back in college), I usually do sleep paralysis when falling asleep (as opposed to when waking up). And I can do it 6 or 7 times in a row, it's a nightmare. Usually though, I realize what's going on (it's happened to me so. many. times.) after the second or third 'paralysi…

Oh man, sleep paralysis is scary. After I had it happen to me a few times, these days I either go "ugh, not this again" and go back to sleep, or just panic and try to fight it, in which case I wake with a jolt after what feels like a minute (an eternity, when you're paralyzed).

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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post #16

Is it really such a mystery anymore? Routine maintenance is prudent for any system. Sleep is a maintenance mode. At night, the sun goes down, it gets cold, predators come out. You save a ton of energy and maybe your life by avoiding activity at that time. When its cold you burn extra calories just to stay warm. Haven't biologists got a lot of evidence by now?

It's more about why/what _exactly_ ? What is taking place during maintenance ?

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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This reminds me of a programmer and very talented blogger who wrote a book ("And Then I Thought I Was A Fish") about his experience of staying up for many days under the influence of LSD, and who is also committed to an institution as a result of his delusions. Very interesting and entertaining read. http://www.stilldrinking.org/the-episode-part-1

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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I once, involuntary, went without sleep for around 72 hours. I was at a music festival and we were either pulling through the night or I couldn't sleep because of the noise. When the time came to go home, I really felt pretty good. At that time I had been awake for around 60 hours. My body was tired and my thinking was a bit sluggish, but nothing too bad... Until I got home and tried to sleep. By then I was feeling d…

That's a crazy story, I could never imagine myself not sleeping for 72 hours!! When I mess up my sleeping schedule pretty bad (which happened a lot back in college), I usually do sleep paralysis when falling asleep (as opposed to when waking up). And I can do it 6 or 7 times in a row, it's a nightmare. Usually though, I realize what's going on (it's happened to me so. many. times.) after the second or third 'paralysi…

I tried polyphasic sleep where you sleep 10 minutes every 3 hours, except I couldn't fall asleep quickly enough so I didn't sleep at all for >72 hours. The strange thing is that I got the idea that I was somehow more awake, more focused. All the background thoughts in your brain disappear, and it makes you think you have laser focus on what you are doing. Except that you objectively suck at what you are doing...

A few weeks after that experiment I found out that some of my memories were missing. I was in high school at the time and I took a university course in classical mechanics with a few friends. This meant going with the train to a different city several times per week, but I had totally forgotten that I did that. I only realized this when my fiends kept talking about it as if I was there too. The memories did come back later; the lack of sleep only only broke the reference to that memory and when the reference was restored the memory itself was still in tact.

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also if you sleep well, and live 25% longer, that 25% will be when you're old, senile, and unable to do anything useful. Studies about sleep are often just crazy. When did people stop using their common sense? Just have as much sleep as you think works for you.

> Also if you sleep well, and live 25% longer, that 25% will be when you're old, senile, and unable to do anything useful. That's assuming you do become senile and unable to do anything useful. Doesn't necessarily have to happen, and that doesn't mean you shouldn't live a good life. > Studies about sleep are often just crazy. When did people stop using their common sense? Just have as much sleep as you think works fo…

Habits like reading every scientific paper and worrying about them?

Re: Getting too little sleep can have serious health consequences (2013)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also if you sleep well, and live 25% longer, that 25% will be when you're old, senile, and unable to do anything useful. That's assuming you do become senile and unable to do anything useful. Doesn't necessarily have to happen, and that doesn't mean you shouldn't live a good life. > Studies about sleep are often just crazy. When did people stop using their common sense? Just have as much sleep as you think works fo…

Habits like reading every scientific paper and worrying about them?

No, habits like only getting ~4hrs sleep or oversleeping regularly.
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