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Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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> "The stubborn unwillingness of incumbent homeowners in highly productive places—namely San Francisco and New York City, which are barely visible on the land-area map, but dominate the housing value map—is a huge drain on the nation’s economy." Are they trying to say that if people didn't have to spend as much on housing then there would be greater GDP?

No, it's saying that concentration of wealth geographically is harmful to economic development. The reality is though, that distributed wealth grows much more slowly.

Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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Isn't this just the same as population density? I think there's an XKCD about this ... https://xkcd.com/1138/

Not quite fair. Usually the xkcd syndrome is caused by plotting density of something that is intrinsic to people e.g. red hair. You end up with a heatmap of population. Here, land prices may be higher because more people are there bidding up the prices. But its not a direct property of the individuals. So the heatmap effect is indirect. Maybe not big point, but there it is.

Not to be pedantic, but I think your example is a little off the mark. Red hair isn't evenly distributed amongst all human populations. [1] A heatmap of population that would leave out most of China and India isn't quite a heatmap of population.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair

Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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i kind of understand why people here frequently against high-density - the way it is done in US ends up with pretty unlivable space of towering boxes surrounded by concrete and asphalt (which is just obvious result of profit maximization while obeying height limits, etc.. While i think having a 200 stories tower surrounded by a park would be better than a bunch of 20-30 stories mid-towers sticking out of concrete/asp…

I feel that sound is a big part of it too. European buildings tend to be a titch bit better about this, but American ones are downright terrible. I'd love to live in a apartment building for a long time, but the sound is what gets me. I can't play my sound as loud as I want, I can't stand other people ignoring that the walls are paper thin, I hear every toilet flush and chopping of carrots in the building. If you can…

This is honestly one of the big things that turns me off of high density here. I feel like I am losing privacy and having to walk on eggshells constantly to avoid pissing off my neighbors.

Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite fair. Usually the xkcd syndrome is caused by plotting density of something that is intrinsic to people e.g. red hair. You end up with a heatmap of population. Here, land prices may be higher because more people are there bidding up the prices. But its not a direct property of the individuals. So the heatmap effect is indirect. Maybe not big point, but there it is.

Not to be pedantic, but I think your example is a little off the mark. Red hair isn't evenly distributed amongst all human populations. [1] A heatmap of population that would leave out most of China and India isn't quite a heatmap of population. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair

Ok, talking US maps. Not many per-person maps that would work worldwide. What do you suggest for an example?

Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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I recommend following Kim-Mai Cutler's Twitter if you want to find interesting articles/takes on SF's housing crisis.

https://twitter.com/kimmaicutler

I especially liked this Vox piece on what actually happens in the process of trying to build more housing in SF:

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/15/8782235/san-francisco-housing-c...

Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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Isn't this just the same as population density? I think there's an XKCD about this ... https://xkcd.com/1138/

I would be more interested in a weighted map that is controlled by population, which would reveal places where property values are undervalued.

Re: Mapping the U.S. By Property Value Instead of Land Area

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to be pedantic, but I think your example is a little off the mark. Red hair isn't evenly distributed amongst all human populations. [1] A heatmap of population that would leave out most of China and India isn't quite a heatmap of population. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair

Ok, talking US maps. Not many per-person maps that would work worldwide. What do you suggest for an example?

Dark brown hair?
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