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Atlas General Availability

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Re: Atlas General Availability

#21

I've never used any of Hashicorps stuff (thought consul did arrive on my radar theother day..). Any recommendations? We use the Atlassian stack here (stash, bamboo, etc) and deploy to AWS (regular AMIs rather than any of that fancy docker stuff). Anything here we should look into?

Vagrant has completely changed my development workflow. So much so that I created a FOSS that uses it and Puppet: https://puphpet.com

That's an awesome project you've got there. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Atlas General Availability

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We use Vagrant for dev and Consul in our deployment and I still have no real idea of what Atlas is.

Good rationale for not having the people who write the product promote the product. You're too close to remember everybody else doesn't know what things are. Based only on the leading description, it sounds like something trying to be a non-crap Docker replacement that was actually built from experience instead of just trying to capture a VC money waterfall? Atlas builds upon and unites our popular open source toolin…

I'll take a stab at this.

Atlas is an application that glues together four different projects by Hashicorp: Packer, Vagrant, Terraform and Consul.

Packer creates virtual machine images (also has Docker support). Vagrant will create, provision and run them for you (so a bit of overlap with Packer there). Terraform is basically a platform agnostic version of Amazon CloudFormation (create and manage infrastructure via configuration). Consul is a service discovery solution.

All of these tools used in conjunction can help you set up a machine, or a cluster of machines, on any supported provider, that will run your application images, all from a set of configuration files. More importantly, changes to your infrastructure and application environment are now a matter of editing configuration.

Atlas places a UI in front of these tools and allows you to execute commands and monitor their status.

Re: Atlas General Availability

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post #11

We use Vagrant for dev and Consul in our deployment and I still have no real idea of what Atlas is.

Great feedback. We've heard this and we've been making strides to improve it. For the most part, this is largely our own doing: we didn't do a good job at all of marketing Atlas to the open source community. There are various reasons for this, including not wanting the community to feel we were pushing commercializing onto them. Another reason is that as Atlas was in tech preview, we wanted to build more features and…

I'm interested but still not clear on what this is. And: I'm one of those people that periodically makes a point of reloading your website to see if you're doing something else interesting. I've seen "Atlas" for awhile. Still no idea what it is.

So is Atlas the "Pro" versions of your core offerings?

Or is it something else, a single coherent product that changes the way I'd interact with Vagrant, &c? Is it like Packer As A Service? Does it host images I make with Packer? Is it a centralized Consul repository?

I think it's the "managed nodes" pricing model (which is fine, don't get me wrong) that makes me confused about what the offering is.

Re: Atlas General Availability

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Good rationale for not having the people who write the product promote the product. You're too close to remember everybody else doesn't know what things are. Based only on the leading description, it sounds like something trying to be a non-crap Docker replacement that was actually built from experience instead of just trying to capture a VC money waterfall? Atlas builds upon and unites our popular open source toolin…

I'll take a stab at this. Atlas is an application that glues together four different projects by Hashicorp: Packer, Vagrant, Terraform and Consul. Packer creates virtual machine images (also has Docker support). Vagrant will create, provision and run them for you (so a bit of overlap with Packer there). Terraform is basically a platform agnostic version of Amazon CloudFormation (create and manage infrastructure via c…

So like, this is Hashicorp's answer to Kubernetes.

It's a sweeping ambitious suite of tools that I'd use to essentially create my own Heroku out of raw machine instances, of my own or from commodity providers.

Re: Atlas General Availability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good rationale for not having the people who write the product promote the product. You're too close to remember everybody else doesn't know what things are. Based only on the leading description, it sounds like something trying to be a non-crap Docker replacement that was actually built from experience instead of just trying to capture a VC money waterfall? Atlas builds upon and unites our popular open source toolin…

I'll take a stab at this. Atlas is an application that glues together four different projects by Hashicorp: Packer, Vagrant, Terraform and Consul. Packer creates virtual machine images (also has Docker support). Vagrant will create, provision and run them for you (so a bit of overlap with Packer there). Terraform is basically a platform agnostic version of Amazon CloudFormation (create and manage infrastructure via c…

That makes more sense, especially the one line description: Atlas places a UI in front of these tools and allows you to execute commands and monitor their status.

Companies are willing to pay for better user interfaces and better monitoring.

But, have we forgotten about hello world?

What this really needs is a barebones absolute minimum-step demo page showing "how to reliably deploy todo list webapp" for immediate benefit. Then maybe add failover and HA and other more useful minimum-step demos building on top of prior examples. (Maybe it exists? One didn't jump out at me and I didn't click around much to discover further.)

Show, don't tell.

Re: Atlas General Availability

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take a stab at this. Atlas is an application that glues together four different projects by Hashicorp: Packer, Vagrant, Terraform and Consul. Packer creates virtual machine images (also has Docker support). Vagrant will create, provision and run them for you (so a bit of overlap with Packer there). Terraform is basically a platform agnostic version of Amazon CloudFormation (create and manage infrastructure via c…

So like, this is Hashicorp's answer to Kubernetes. It's a sweeping ambitious suite of tools that I'd use to essentially create my own Heroku out of raw machine instances, of my own or from commodity providers.

And Atlas is to those suite of tools like how GitHub is to git, kinda.

Re: Atlas General Availability

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post #11

We use Vagrant for dev and Consul in our deployment and I still have no real idea of what Atlas is.

Great feedback. We've heard this and we've been making strides to improve it. For the most part, this is largely our own doing: we didn't do a good job at all of marketing Atlas to the open source community. There are various reasons for this, including not wanting the community to feel we were pushing commercializing onto them. Another reason is that as Atlas was in tech preview, we wanted to build more features and…

You wrote a fairly long reply, but failed to actually say anything whatsoever about what Atlas is...

Re: Atlas General Availability

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thought the same! Pricing seems a bit Atlassian: almost free if you're small, very expensive if you are not.

That sounds more like Github's Enterprise product, which used to be a cliff of a few thousand bucks to fall off, where private Bitbucket is a $1/user/month. Maybe Github's pricing is less unusual now.

Github is still incredibly expensive, for both Enterprise and Github.com.
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