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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by pgrote » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 12:56 AM UTC

grecy wrote: post #10

I wonder if Reddit is big enough to survive these kinds of recent outcries [1], or if it's destined to go the way of digg, etc. [1] Only a week or so ago there was a huge outcry about censorship, which resulted in a lot of negative personal information being posted about the current Reddit CEO. Now we have this.

No one knows why Victoria was let go, right? Even respecting privacy of employment decisions, it was handled horribly. I honestly have no idea how/why reddit management makes any decisions anymore. Instead of transparency it's obfuscation. This is just the latest.

When she is involved in a AMA it seems to go well. Better than well, actually. When I see that she is helping out I pay more attention due to the fact there is someone helping guide the person in responses.

The AMAs are a big reason I enjoy reddit.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by dageshi » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 12:56 AM UTC

/r/videos just went dark

Seems likely to me that the problem is now too big for the admins to fix even if they wanted too. They couldn't moderate that many large subs, they don't have the manpower. There's going to be an impressive amount of bad publicity hitting reddit tomorrow, I hope to hell they have a good explanation lined up cause they're going to need it.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by pgrote » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 12:57 AM UTC

koko775 wrote: post #13

chernevik wrote: post #8

Jesse Jackson had an AMA that did not go very well. Several of the most upvoted questions were simply disrespectful. The Reverend's answers were mostly boilerplate and often unresponsive to the question. The AMA seems to have been part of some PR rollout -- Mother Jones had an article three days ago about Jackson taking on Silicon Valley. The event seems to have failed the rollout's objectives. Not a great moment for…

I'm pretty certain AMA disasters do not qualify as fireable. And firing the facilitator with a history of good AMAs for that reason is hardly an appropriate remedy even if that is so.

Listen, I just want to talk about Rampart.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by dageshi » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 12:57 AM UTC

mhomde wrote: post #18

dageshi wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, seems a one off, your past comments are fine, so is this one, I think you may have tripped a spam filter.

weird, maybe too many subreddit links looks like spam :)

it's undead, I'm guessing someone fixed it :)

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by mhomde » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 12:57 AM UTC

chernevik wrote: post #8

Jesse Jackson had an AMA that did not go very well. Several of the most upvoted questions were simply disrespectful. The Reverend's answers were mostly boilerplate and often unresponsive to the question. The AMA seems to have been part of some PR rollout -- Mother Jones had an article three days ago about Jackson taking on Silicon Valley. The event seems to have failed the rollout's objectives. Not a great moment for…

I'd be surprised if it was about that (at least only) and not more about reddit wanting to bring AMA's back to a team at their SF office rather than NY... but your guess is as good as mine

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 1:01 AM UTC

stefantalpalaru wrote: post #11

minimaxir wrote: post #3

More Context into the events that possibly led to the layoff: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_wa... Alexis Ohanian's response: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... List of subreddits suddenly going private: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_...

> Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause. The doublespeak is weird. If it's a protest, say so. There's no direct relation between the employee getting fired and a subreddit that is not focused on celebrity PR going dark.

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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by delroth » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 1:04 AM UTC

stefantalpalaru wrote: post #11

minimaxir wrote: post #3

More Context into the events that possibly led to the layoff: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_wa... Alexis Ohanian's response: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... List of subreddits suddenly going private: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_...

> Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause. The doublespeak is weird. If it's a protest, say so. There's no direct relation between the employee getting fired and a subreddit that is not focused on celebrity PR going dark.

You've picked the wrong example here though. /r/science has hosted many AMAs in the past, so they are directly impacted.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by rblatz » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 1:04 AM UTC

stefantalpalaru wrote: post #11

minimaxir wrote: post #3

More Context into the events that possibly led to the layoff: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_wa... Alexis Ohanian's response: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... List of subreddits suddenly going private: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_...

> Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause. The doublespeak is weird. If it's a protest, say so. There's no direct relation between the employee getting fired and a subreddit that is not focused on celebrity PR going dark.

/r/Science also does AMAs.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by seanalltogether » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 1:06 AM UTC

mhomde wrote: post #17

What a circus reddit has become. There's probably/hopefully more to this story but still. It will be interesting to see if reddit forces the hands of the biggest subreddits to open again. Which raises an interesting question, who "owns" a subreddit, the mods? the subscribers? reddit? I also wonder if it's a good idea for a community like reddit to have "public facing" administrators Many of the biggest subreddits are…

I'm actually surprised that reddit allows default subreddits to go private or disable themselves in any way. Each community should absolutely be able to moderate themselves, but at the same time being a default subreddit carries extra responsibilities.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by chernevik » Fri, Jul 03, 2015, 1:06 AM UTC

koko775 wrote: post #13

chernevik wrote: post #8

Jesse Jackson had an AMA that did not go very well. Several of the most upvoted questions were simply disrespectful. The Reverend's answers were mostly boilerplate and often unresponsive to the question. The AMA seems to have been part of some PR rollout -- Mother Jones had an article three days ago about Jackson taking on Silicon Valley. The event seems to have failed the rollout's objectives. Not a great moment for…

I'm pretty certain AMA disasters do not qualify as fireable. And firing the facilitator with a history of good AMAs for that reason is hardly an appropriate remedy even if that is so.

Shouldn't. But see this exchange in the archive (https://archive.is/jouWQ#selection-17025.0-17025.134)

'Have you felt regretful for rushing to judgement after condemning the "perpetrators" of the Duke lacrosse rape scandal during 2006-07?'

'No, the pattern is consistent. And we never want injustice to occur. But the pattern is fairly obvious, and a very obvious pattern that must be ended.'

The Reverend isn't interested in fairness to individuals, he's interested in "patterns". If he feels himself subjected to a pattern he feels unfair, well, fairness to any individual is less important than ending that pattern.

The Reverend is not the guy you'd want arguing with Yahweh to spare Sodom and Gomorrah lest He unjustly punish the innocent with the guilty.