This looks interesting! I just started playing around with this a bit, and maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like the ModelViews only implement create, update, and delete? Why no read?
What is Flask-Admin?
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, that's typical rhetoric about default Bootstrap interface. Like if someone used default bootstrap skin then he's just lazy and didn't really care. Thus unprofessional. Personally, I think that Bootstrap interface is good enough, but its widespread adoption lead to the perception I mentioned above.
The fact that Bootstrap is widespread, and therefore perceived by some unprofessional, does not make a user using it unprofessional, nor does it make the framework unprofessional. Are Django or Flask unprofessional since they are widespread?
Unfortunately, you can't compare development frameworks to UI frameworks. No one knows that you're a dog on the Internet. But anyone without technical knowledge can see a site that's built with the default Bootstrap skin and say - hey, I saw it before.
Bootstrap is good and clean framework, it is _great_ for developers. But just because it is so widespread and highly visible, there's some of prejudice around it.
Nonetheless, I'm using Bootstrap in my projects and happy with it.
Re: What is Flask-Admin?
#23This looks interesting! I just started playing around with this a bit, and maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like the ModelViews only implement create, update, and delete? Why no read?
There were requests to create read-only views, but they're domain specific and can be done with existing machinery.
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#24This looks interesting! I just started playing around with this a bit, and maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like the ModelViews only implement create, update, and delete? Why no read?
There were requests to create read-only views, but they're domain specific and can be done with existing machinery.
I'd have thought that viewing the details of a model instance (attributes and some relationships) would be very generic use case? But I probably just don't understand how to do this easily with flask-admin as it is. Is there a good place in the documentation/examples to start looking?
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#25The great thing about the Django Admin is that - because it was actually part of the Django itself - there is a whole ecosystem of extensions, add-ons, skins etc for it. Any attempts to replace it for Django would have an uphill struggle for that reason alone. This is one side-effect of an opinionated framework - the provision of a default choice facilitates cooperation and prevents fragmentation. (We recently picked…
The thing is with Pyramid IMO that you have to have some experience with Python (and its ecosystem) to be able to use it effectively. It's clealry much more flexible than either Django or Flask and has more advanced concepts and features (such as view predicates, declarative permission system, URL traverse, etc...) but you have to be able to use it.
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There were requests to create read-only views, but they're domain specific and can be done with existing machinery.
I'd have thought that viewing the details of a model instance (attributes and some relationships) would be very generic use case? But I probably just don't understand how to do this easily with flask-admin as it is. Is there a good place in the documentation/examples to start looking?
I think the generic idea is to merge 'update/view' into the same thing so that you "view" by looking at the "update" form without updating anything. I've seen this in several places, though I'm not partial to the idea. I like having a separation between 'I am making changes' and 'I am viewing' just so that you don't end up with accidental updates.
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#27> Campus Bubble is a single page app with React.js on a frontend and Python services on a backend. We use Flask, SQLAlchemy, Tornado (SockJS push notifications), PostgreSQL, Redis - a pretty standard Flask stack.
Can anyone explain how Flask and Tornado could be used together?
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I'd have thought that viewing the details of a model instance (attributes and some relationships) would be very generic use case? But I probably just don't understand how to do this easily with flask-admin as it is. Is there a good place in the documentation/examples to start looking?
I think the generic idea is to merge 'update/view' into the same thing so that you "view" by looking at the "update" form without updating anything. I've seen this in several places, though I'm not partial to the idea. I like having a separation between 'I am making changes' and 'I am viewing' just so that you don't end up with accidental updates.
Right yeah, that explains things. I don't mind this when it's just for myself, but actual users definitely get scared when they see the editable fields and the submit buttons...
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#29> Campus Bubble is a single page app with React.js on a frontend and Python services on a backend. We use Flask, SQLAlchemy, Tornado (SockJS push notifications), PostgreSQL, Redis - a pretty standard Flask stack. Can anyone explain how Flask and Tornado could be used together?
They're being used side by side and running in separate processes.
For Campus Bubble, tornado app is a relatively simple push broker. Whenever something happens, Flask app pushes notification to a broker and broker pushes them in fan-out fashion to subscribers.
I even wrote another blog post a while ago about possible approach: http://mrjoes.github.io/2013/06/21/python-realtime.html
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact that Bootstrap is widespread, and therefore perceived by some unprofessional, does not make a user using it unprofessional, nor does it make the framework unprofessional. Are Django or Flask unprofessional since they are widespread?
Unfortunately, you can't compare development frameworks to UI frameworks. No one knows that you're a dog on the Internet. But anyone without technical knowledge can see a site that's built with the default Bootstrap skin and say - hey, I saw it before. Bootstrap is good and clean framework, it is _great_ for developers. But just because it is so widespread and highly visible, there's some of prejudice around it. None…
While that is true I think that most users will be oblivious to the commonalities - as developers we are not only familiar with bootstrap but also with the myriad developer-built sites that are more likely to use it