Now if only the Australian government would follow suit and follow through with investigations of similar practices here. Abuse of "skilled immigration" 457 visas is rampant.
In Turnabout, Disney Cancels Tech Worker Layoffs
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The H-1B visa should be eliminated. It's been nothing but a scam from the start. If there's a demand for a certain type of skill high wages will attract people to the field.
High wages are not enough. It takes time to train people. It can take years. Demand for experienced workers can't be satisfied with newly trained workers. Demand for skilled workers can very easily exceed their supply. A good example of this problem currently is nurses in the Bay Area. They are very well paid however there is still a shortage because there isn't enough teaching available. The teachers are of course e…
Very well paid is relative, especially when you factor in the cost of living somewhere like the Bay Area. I personally know several experienced nurses who would happily move if it meant increasing their overall standard of living.
It's always about salary. The shortage of nurses could be easily filled if they were raised. Instead hospitals prefer to cut it close, running borderline unsafe units on busy days
Re: In Turnabout, Disney Cancels Tech Worker Layoffs
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The H-1B visa should be eliminated. It's been nothing but a scam from the start. If there's a demand for a certain type of skill high wages will attract people to the field.
High wages are not enough. It takes time to train people. It can take years. Demand for experienced workers can't be satisfied with newly trained workers. Demand for skilled workers can very easily exceed their supply. A good example of this problem currently is nurses in the Bay Area. They are very well paid however there is still a shortage because there isn't enough teaching available. The teachers are of course e…
Twenty years? No way. Maybe five or ten years for something like nursing.
Programmers can learn a language in a few months and become professionally proficient in two years or so. It's a lot closer to factory work than rocket science.
Beyond that there are a bunch of 50+ year old guys with perfectly good skills who can't get jobs because they don't fit the common (erroneous) mental picture of a software developer. There's no shortage of IT people in the US and never has been.
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they already do collect medicare and social security from foreign workers.
I want the company that receives the H1B to pay an addition tax on the salary that goes to unemployment. It needs to be something above an beyond what is payed for a citizen. After all, the H1B is supposed to have skills that the local workers don't and thus should be worth the extra money.
> the H1B is supposed to have skills that the local workers don't
Given that, wouldn't it make more sense for the extra money to go into education? How is contributing to unemployment going to get Americans more jobs?
What about companies that need the skills but can't afford the more expensive workers? If I'm a small startup with a $200k budget for an expert but there are no citizens with the skills available (at all), paying $220k may not be an option, leaving me with either a loan or without the skills I need.
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#25H-1Bs are supposed to be used to fill jobs for which qualified Americans can't be found, but to get around this, Disney lays off workers and brings in a consultancy to take over. The consultancy employs the H-1B workers, not Disney. There are so many loopholes that it seems like the only solutions are to either create a well funded agency/department to oversee this, or to increase the price far enough that H-1Bs are…
The solution is for H1-B workers to auto-convert to a green card after 12 months. Period. The company has 12 months to complete a security check and has to fund it itself. Now, if the company really needs a worker brought in on an H1-B, they will be very happy and the H1-B queue will continuously clear itself. However, if all they want is an indentured servant, that will get quashed when the green card arrives. Every…
Not everyone ones: American citizens who compete with immigrants for jobs. Or H1B immigrant's compete for overall quota spots with other immigrants, so those lose.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other trick is to run job ads with impossible requirements (10+ years of Node.js, etc.) and hey, what do you know, we just don't have the skills required in this country!
I recall back in 2010 I saw job postings looking for a minimum 5 years experience writing iOS Apps. Never mind that the iOS SDK was only two years old at that point. #sigh
A lot of those is "job openings" that translate seniority to years of experience
So the recruiter inputs "wants senior node.js dev" and the software outputs "10+ years Node.js"
Re: In Turnabout, Disney Cancels Tech Worker Layoffs
#27H-1Bs are supposed to be used to fill jobs for which qualified Americans can't be found, but to get around this, Disney lays off workers and brings in a consultancy to take over. The consultancy employs the H-1B workers, not Disney. There are so many loopholes that it seems like the only solutions are to either create a well funded agency/department to oversee this, or to increase the price far enough that H-1Bs are…
The solution is for H1-B workers to auto-convert to a green card after 12 months. Period. The company has 12 months to complete a security check and has to fund it itself. Now, if the company really needs a worker brought in on an H1-B, they will be very happy and the H1-B queue will continuously clear itself. However, if all they want is an indentured servant, that will get quashed when the green card arrives. Every…
Won't companies just fire the H1-Bs before the year is up and keep the treadmill rolling?
Re: In Turnabout, Disney Cancels Tech Worker Layoffs
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The solution is for H1-B workers to auto-convert to a green card after 12 months. Period. The company has 12 months to complete a security check and has to fund it itself. Now, if the company really needs a worker brought in on an H1-B, they will be very happy and the H1-B queue will continuously clear itself. However, if all they want is an indentured servant, that will get quashed when the green card arrives. Every…
Won't companies just fire the H1-Bs before the year is up and keep the treadmill rolling?
That might be, but continuous personnel replacement would be hard for both the abusing company and its customers. Disney wouldn't be so keen to outsource if they knew all the people they train now will be gone in a few months. It would also dry up the pool of applicants faster at the other end, especially if linked with provisions forbidding reapplying for X years.
Re: In Turnabout, Disney Cancels Tech Worker Layoffs
#29H-1Bs are supposed to be used to fill jobs for which qualified Americans can't be found, but to get around this, Disney lays off workers and brings in a consultancy to take over. The consultancy employs the H-1B workers, not Disney. There are so many loopholes that it seems like the only solutions are to either create a well funded agency/department to oversee this, or to increase the price far enough that H-1Bs are…
A simple enough solution is to require H-1B to be given only if the salary is X% above the industry average for the position. Then companies will only use them for people whose skills are actually difficult to find in the USA.
Edit: wording
Re: In Turnabout, Disney Cancels Tech Worker Layoffs
#30H-1Bs are supposed to be used to fill jobs for which qualified Americans can't be found, but to get around this, Disney lays off workers and brings in a consultancy to take over. The consultancy employs the H-1B workers, not Disney. There are so many loopholes that it seems like the only solutions are to either create a well funded agency/department to oversee this, or to increase the price far enough that H-1Bs are…
A simple enough solution is to require H-1B to be given only if the salary is X% above the industry average for the position. Then companies will only use them for people whose skills are actually difficult to find in the USA. Edit: wording
That would just lead to employers redefining which "industry" a particular position is in.