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Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
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Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#22Front End developer and graphic designer (xHTML/CSS/Design)
HTML5 makes me cry inside, part of me died when HTML5 gained browser support. To me, HTML5 is all about GIT'R'DONE; it's an evolution, an odd growth on the body of HTML4, rather than setting a newer, better foundation. :(
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#23Almost all of the HTML features in HTML5 are boring and barely useful. The rest, basically, and are crippled. The useful parts of HTML5 are the new JavaScript APIs (which arguably don't really belong). Unfortunately many important ones are missing, and of the ones which are present many are incomplete or broken.
not to mention being awful in mobile safari.
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
OK, so what about what the new elements do for CSS? Won't style sheets be more portable now that we have , , etc.?
Unless new features are added to CSS, I suspect and will behave exactly like s do today.
Right now a CSS file for one site won't work for another. With HTML5, sometimes it will. I find that a little exciting. Imagine portable themes.
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#25Front End developer and graphic designer (xHTML/CSS/Design) HTML5 makes me cry inside, part of me died when HTML5 gained browser support. To me, HTML5 is all about GIT'R'DONE; it's an evolution, an odd growth on the body of HTML4, rather than setting a newer, better foundation. :(
This is the exact opposite of how I see HTML5.
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#26When I first started thinking about it and studying it, I found it downright exciting. So much potential. But as with most thing the devil is in the details. And we just don't have enough details yet. So much could change between now and when it actually gets implemented that it may turn out to be a big disappointment.
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#27Programmer. It doesn't excite me in the least because, since I can't afford to alienate big chunks of my audience, it might have enough penetration to use in, oh, 3-5 years? Meh.
That's the main issue. The user base for it will be relatively small for several years. Hopefully many of the people on IE 6 will leapfrog to a HTML 5 browser in the next few years, that would solve a lot of issues.
How does that affect you? Your HTML markup will work in HTML5, too. In any case, I keep reading no one will use it for years yet most of the leading developers and designers I know are using it today. And I'm joining them since all my markup is now HTML5 as of six months ago.
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the main issue. The user base for it will be relatively small for several years. Hopefully many of the people on IE 6 will leapfrog to a HTML 5 browser in the next few years, that would solve a lot of issues.
How does that affect you? Your HTML markup will work in HTML5, too. In any case, I keep reading no one will use it for years yet most of the leading developers and designers I know are using it today. And I'm joining them since all my markup is now HTML5 as of six months ago.
That's interesting. Can you fill out your profile with sites you've worked on?
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#29Programmer - No
The idea that we are stuck with javascript instead of a VM is sad.
Re: Ask HN: Does HTML5 excite you? Why or why not?
#30Programmer. It doesn't excite me in the least because, since I can't afford to alienate big chunks of my audience, it might have enough penetration to use in, oh, 3-5 years? Meh.
Do you think the web will be a lot better 5 years from now as a result of HTML5?
Probably. On one hand, People Still Use IE6. And the people who still use IE6 aren't people who install things like Google Chrome Frame, or the latest updates from Microsoft (obviously). So for the time being, more features, along with cleaner syntax and the rest, means more work for web developers who want to use those features and whose audiences aren't particularly ahead of the curve.
On the other hand, those developers whose audiences are ahead of the curve, or who don't mind the blasphemous "Please update your browser. Here are some good ones:" link, will push the industry forward until the number of people still using IE6, or FF1.5, or Mosaic or whatever, approaches zero. It will happen because people will get annoyed, or viruses, or new computers running new operating systems and browsers. In that way html5 is the best thing that could happen to the web. A backwards-incompatible version will (hopefully) throw the few stragglers, who spend money on the web but still don't need css2, into the 21st century.
My grandmother was, until very recently, using MacOS 9 with IE4. She did not care that her homepage (apple.com, as it had been since she bought the computer) was impossible to read. People still using IE6 and even IE7 in five years will not be the kind of person who spends a lot of time or money online.