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White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

#21
I've always wondered if there is not a general conspiracy of lawyers to protect their "industry". They have all interests to keep the current patent system, as well as extending copyright protection to anything: it keeps the demand for lawyers high.

Of course you have the same view of software and/or system engineer, who build broken systems just to justify billing more maintenance :)

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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post #18

It's not obvious from the LWN article, but the reason it says "White House" is that lawyers from the DoJ have filed an Amicus Curiae ("Friend of the Court") brief informing them of their stance on the topic. [1] [2] [1] - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/05/white-house-sides... [2] - http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/google...

That's really misleading, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised when the next election is rapidly approaching.

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Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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post #18

It's not obvious from the LWN article, but the reason it says "White House" is that lawyers from the DoJ have filed an Amicus Curiae ("Friend of the Court") brief informing them of their stance on the topic. [1] [2] [1] - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/05/white-house-sides... [2] - http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/google...

That's really misleading, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised when the next election is rapidly approaching.

Given the amount of control both the Obama and Bush administrations have exerted over the DOJ, I'm OK with this title.

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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Another win for lawyers.

Unfortunately now the USA is goign to try to push this ruling all over the world with TIPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investm...).

It's not enough that the USA destroys their own entrepreneurial spirit but everybody else as well.

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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On the one hand, this would have serious implications for compatible FOSS reimplementations of proprietary APIs, such as Wine, libc, emulators, etc. On the other hand, this would make it far easier to enforce copyleft licenses like the GPL. I'm one of the people who provided text and examples filed in the EFF's amicus brief against, and on balance I'm not a fan of stricter copyright like this, but it's interesting to…

But how often are laws used positively?

This is an overly cynical view. The vast majority of laws are used positively. The are the foundation of this country. When they are abused it makes headlines (sometimes). When everyone gets to work and back safely and can afford to pay the mortgage and buy a big screen, it's just business as usual.

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

#26

On the one hand, this would have serious implications for compatible FOSS reimplementations of proprietary APIs, such as Wine, libc, emulators, etc. On the other hand, this would make it far easier to enforce copyleft licenses like the GPL. I'm one of the people who provided text and examples filed in the EFF's amicus brief against, and on balance I'm not a fan of stricter copyright like this, but it's interesting to…

But how often are laws used positively?

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Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

#27

Can someone give us an ELI5? Pros/Cons etc.

Con: all the BSDs and Linux are now owned by whoever most recently picked up the POSIX APIs. ReactOS and WINE are now illegal. SQL is the private property of IBM.

Pro: I guess if you hate Google because you love Steve Jobs or something it looks like a win.

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

#28

It's not obvious from the LWN article, but the reason it says "White House" is that lawyers from the DoJ have filed an Amicus Curiae ("Friend of the Court") brief informing them of their stance on the topic. [1] [2] [1] - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/05/white-house-sides... [2] - http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/google...

Is the term "White House" often used to refer to anything within the executive branch? I have always assumed it meant the office of the President and perhaps his cabinet...

Yes; it's not uncommon.

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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post #5

s/^\([a-zA-Z_]*\)(\(.*\))$/ggl_\1(\2)/ ?? This ruling sounds horrible... very curious to hear point-of-view of people who think otherwise. Edit: my regexp joke is mangled by markup, but who cares ? Edit: fixed regexp display (not that it affects joke).

put a couple of spaces in front of it

  *like this*

Re: White House Sides with Oracle, Tells Supreme Court APIs Are Copyrightable

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post #19

"declaring code and the structure, sequence, and organization of the API packages are entitled to copyright protection." Would this apply to REST APIs too? Someone needs to explain to them that that would be like being able to copyright how files are organised in a drawer, how books are organised on shelves in a Library, how a book is indexed, how departments in a company are named, how streets are numbered, how camp…

I suspect a subset of that has, in fact, been tried (and the rest only hasn't been tried because of obvious prior art).
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