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Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#21
2014 was an incredible year for them revenue/profit wise, and the first 3 months are already showing impressive growth.

2013 - 271M revenue, 51M loss.

2014 - 745M revenue, 131M profit.

Q1 2014 - 108M revenue, 8M profit.

Q1 2015 - 336M revenue, 47M profit.

These are fantastic numbers - I don't blame them deciding to go public now.

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#22

Reading the "Risk Factors" in the From S-1 always proves to be educational. Thanks to the SEC the disclosures tend to be very candid (if not partially shrouded by legalese) and a good indicator of the structural weaknesses of a company. For FitBit the lack of subscription revenue (1% of total), the litigation following product recalls, and the uncertainty from complying with FDA regulations seem particularly notewort…

The problem is competition. FitBit's only hope, in my opinion, is to create an Android-based/compatible multifunction device that becomes the competitor to the Apple Watch.

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Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is competition. FitBit's only hope, in my opinion, is to create an Android-based/compatible multifunction device that becomes the competitor to the Apple Watch.

On the other hand, they present a cross-platform alternative. I bought Fitbit's scale because it had a Windows Phone app, something that Apple or Samsung won't give me.

I just don't think a pedometer gets the job done. I think the winners in this space will be much broader, multifunction devices. Something like I expect to see out of Apple Watch 3.0.

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#24
I used to be a Fitbit fan, but now I switched to Garmin Vivofit (and later Vivofit 2) and never looked back. My data is open, I have a battery that lasts a year+(!), a watch and an HR monitor (with a strap) in one device.

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, they present a cross-platform alternative. I bought Fitbit's scale because it had a Windows Phone app, something that Apple or Samsung won't give me.

I just don't think a pedometer gets the job done. I think the winners in this space will be much broader, multifunction devices. Something like I expect to see out of Apple Watch 3.0.

An interesting comparison is Misfit. They sell pedometers but also offer a free app for Pebble and Apple Watch. How do they intend to make money? Selling Shine to people who are interested in the jewelry aspect? Getting people into their ecosystem and selling them the bed sensor or other future specialized sensors?

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#26
Between Apple Watch from lifestyle perspective and Microsoft Band from fitness functional perspective, FitBit is being squeezed. They can still be profitable, but if Microsoft continues to refine and hone Band, FitBit is in serious trouble.

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#27

Reading the "Risk Factors" in the From S-1 always proves to be educational. Thanks to the SEC the disclosures tend to be very candid (if not partially shrouded by legalese) and a good indicator of the structural weaknesses of a company. For FitBit the lack of subscription revenue (1% of total), the litigation following product recalls, and the uncertainty from complying with FDA regulations seem particularly notewort…

Direct link to risk factors: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1447599/0001193125151...

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#28
post #21

2014 was an incredible year for them revenue/profit wise, and the first 3 months are already showing impressive growth. 2013 - 271M revenue, 51M loss. 2014 - 745M revenue, 131M profit. Q1 2014 - 108M revenue, 8M profit. Q1 2015 - 336M revenue, 47M profit. These are fantastic numbers - I don't blame them deciding to go public now.

The only way an IPO makes sense is if they're going to raise money to compete with the Apple Watch or to move into a completely different product category.

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, they present a cross-platform alternative. I bought Fitbit's scale because it had a Windows Phone app, something that Apple or Samsung won't give me.

I just don't think a pedometer gets the job done. I think the winners in this space will be much broader, multifunction devices. Something like I expect to see out of Apple Watch 3.0.

> I just don't think a pedometer gets the job done.

Fitbit's current flagship activity tracker (the Surge) includes a pedometer, but it isn't just a pedometer. It has a fair array of functions, including non-pedometer fitness functions like the heart rate monitor -- it doesn't support third-party functionality like Apple Watch or Android Wear, and it doesn't have a color screen, OTOH, it can be used with Apple or Android devices (and Windows Phone, I think) -- or with neither, it can use a desktop or laptop to sync, as well -- and when used with a mobile device, it can support call and text notifications and control the synced device's music playback.

It also has its own GPS for doing exercise (run/bike) route tracking.

They're in a tough competitive spot, sure. But they've known for a while that the direction was toward broader functionality.

Re: Fitbit Files IPO

#30
post #26

Between Apple Watch from lifestyle perspective and Microsoft Band from fitness functional perspective, FitBit is being squeezed. They can still be profitable, but if Microsoft continues to refine and hone Band, FitBit is in serious trouble.

I'm really curious what the second or third iteration of the MS Band looks like.

I tried one on and the whole hw/software combination right now seems like a public beta. But it's showing they've got some really good ideas.

What I'd really like is a stress management feature from one of these sensor bands that can glean more info from my daily life. It seems like a perfect fit for MS to look at my Outlook calendar for the day and my heart rate and then point out to me a meeting that may have gotten heated.

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