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How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

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Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#21

Ok so wait, in response to getting scammed you hacked into this guys accounts to gather information? And then admit to it publicly ? And then dox the guy? Unprofessional doesn't even begin...

To be honest, if this stops these guys from scamming someone else I'd call it a win. The internet is still a bit of a wild wild west, especially when dealing with people from foreign countries. If someone robs you or breaks into your house, you have the right to defend yourself.

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#22
post #19

Why don't they add a bitcoin option as well? it would cost them anything to accept bitcoin via bitpay (0% fee) and they completely eliminate their chargeback risk webmasters are a fairly tech literate lot and I am sure alot of them already use or know of bitcoin

We are, actually. We currently accept bitcoin for both deposits and full-on purchases. We prefer it, actually.

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#23
Wait Empire Flippers don't even bother to vet their buyers?

It's not great getting scammed either but I'm sure it's also illegal to use customer information to get into someone's account and then post their information online.

You couldn't pay me to use these website brokers.

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#24

Ok so wait, in response to getting scammed you hacked into this guys accounts to gather information? And then admit to it publicly ? And then dox the guy? Unprofessional doesn't even begin...

>>> in response to getting scammed you hacked into this guys accounts to gather information?

Not really hacking when they gave you the passwords already. That's like me accusing you of breaking into my house after I gave you a key to the lock.

>>>> And then admit to it publicly?

I agree this probably isn't the best thing, but considering the targets are in eastern Europe, and they are criminals, I doubt they're going to press charges.

>>>> And then dox the guy?

This is their own fault for having poor opsec. The fact he got busted and now his information is public is not the responsibility of those he scammed. IF they didn't want their shit exposed and on the internet, they should have done a better job of covering their tracks.

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#25

Ok so wait, in response to getting scammed you hacked into this guys accounts to gather information? And then admit to it publicly ? And then dox the guy? Unprofessional doesn't even begin...

To be honest, if this stops these guys from scamming someone else I'd call it a win. The internet is still a bit of a wild wild west, especially when dealing with people from foreign countries. If someone robs you or breaks into your house, you have the right to defend yourself.

> If someone robs you or breaks into your house, you have the right to defend yourself.

Yes, that's why in the non-internet world, when someone breaks into my house, I now have the right to commit identity fraud, make false statements, and commit arson of their neighbor's property.

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#26
post #19

Why don't they add a bitcoin option as well? it would cost them anything to accept bitcoin via bitpay (0% fee) and they completely eliminate their chargeback risk webmasters are a fairly tech literate lot and I am sure alot of them already use or know of bitcoin

We are, actually. We currently accept bitcoin for both deposits and full-on purchases. We prefer it, actually.

Aha :) good stuff, sorry I was only checking your site in a hurry and didn't notice

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#27

Ok so wait, in response to getting scammed you hacked into this guys accounts to gather information? And then admit to it publicly ? And then dox the guy? Unprofessional doesn't even begin...

It might be unprofessional, but considering their options in this situation, I'd say it was a good call. Hopefully it can help someone else down the road.

Re: How a Russian Syndicate Scammed Us for $25K

#28

Ok so wait, in response to getting scammed you hacked into this guys accounts to gather information? And then admit to it publicly ? And then dox the guy? Unprofessional doesn't even begin...

Someone stole a laptop from me a few years ago and gave/sold it to someone else. I ssh'd into it, installed keyloggers and screen capture programs so I could figure out who they were. I was able to get their email, Facebook, and eBay passwords which I used to find out who they were and where they were staying so I could give that info to the police. Unfortunately, I still didn't get my computer back.
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