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Re: Update on Heml.is

#21

Post by dewey »

Amir98 wrote: post #14

Ow:( This may be the saddest thing I read in a long time. I'm a very active person online (more than 10 hours/day) and have many friends in many countries that I communicate with on daily basis. Aside from Email, due to privacy concerns, I avoided any messaging platform (whether on FB, TW, Whatsapp, Viber, Skype, and any other platform) since 2003. I was eagerly waiting for the moment to introduce Hemlis to all my fr…

Why are you not using Signal / Textsecure or any other of these new apps which have privacy in mind. IIRC they even said Hemlis won't be open source according to their FAQ so I don't think these 3 guys would've pulled this off any better than Telegram even with their dubious encryption.

Re: Update on Heml.is

#22

Post by Amir98 »

dewey wrote: post #21
Amir98 wrote: post #14

Ow:( This may be the saddest thing I read in a long time. I'm a very active person online (more than 10 hours/day) and have many friends in many countries that I communicate with on daily basis. Aside from Email, due to privacy concerns, I avoided any messaging platform (whether on FB, TW, Whatsapp, Viber, Skype, and any other platform) since 2003. I was eagerly waiting for the moment to introduce Hemlis to all my fr…

Why are you not using Signal / Textsecure or any other of these new apps which have privacy in mind. IIRC they even said Hemlis won't be open source according to their FAQ so I don't think these 3 guys would've pulled this off any better than Telegram even with their dubious encryption.

I can use these apps but in order to be able to recommend it to my friends as an app that can replace Whatsapp or Viber, it should have a comparable UI/UX. I too was concerned about their source availability approach. What will you suggest that meets these criteria?

Re: Update on Heml.is

#23

Post by [deleted] »

mpeg wrote: post #20

"Just think – verification by SMS for all of the potential users would be millions of dollars even at a few cents per SMS." What? They received $147,210 from 10074 backers, even if every SMS sent costs you $0.04 (pricing from twilio for my country) you can send 50 millon before it's costing you "millions of dollars". Do you really think that 10k backers is going to translate into whatsapp-scale from launch? Maybe try…

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Re: Update on Heml.is

#24

Post by Globz »

This is a very sad news, I was checking their website on a regular basis for updates...oh well at least they are honest instead of delivering an incomplete product with missing features. Hopefully someone else will take over or create something new with the same vision.

Re: Update on Heml.is

#25

Post by dewey »

Amir98 wrote: post #22
dewey wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you not using Signal / Textsecure or any other of these new apps which have privacy in mind. IIRC they even said Hemlis won't be open source according to their FAQ so I don't think these 3 guys would've pulled this off any better than Telegram even with their dubious encryption.

I can use these apps but in order to be able to recommend it to my friends as an app that can replace Whatsapp or Viber, it should have a comparable UI/UX. I too was concerned about their source availability approach. What will you suggest that meets these criteria?

I'd suggest WhisperSystem's Signal [0], it's currently available on iOS and Android [1] and open source [2].

[0] https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/02/signal-iphones...

[1] https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal/

[2] https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-iOS

Re: Update on Heml.is

#26

Post by NathanKP »

Grue3 wrote: post #11
ryanisinallofus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is almost as if not every single project is a success.

It's almost as if you have project masterminded by "idea guys" without any regard for its technical, or even physical feasibility, designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator to attract people with little experience in investing, it is likely to end up being either a scam or a total failure.

Which frankly is the same thing that many Silicon Valley startups do, except the investors have far more experience, yet still put money in.

Frankly investing is a risk, and if you aren't willing to take that risk then you shouldn't do it. Not every Silicon Valley startup is a success, not every Kickstarter is a success.

It's just how the game works.

Re: Update on Heml.is

#27

Post by mhomde »

Confusion wrote: post #15
joshstrange wrote: post #9

So this pisses me off more than a little. I've had multiple ideas that would be good for crowdfunding projects but never executed on them because I never mapped out enough of what I would do with said money. It felt wrong to ask for money without a solid plan of how to move forward. Just saying "this sucks give me money to fix it, and oh yeah, I have no plan but money + no plan = success right?" felt wrong (and I thi…

People like this ruin crowdfunding for everyone else [..] People like this will cause crowdfunding to mature. It would be good if we got to the point where you will only get funded if you first demonstrate you have a reasonable chance of succeeding. There's currently a lot of money going to doomed projects, initiated by people with only an idea. That money would be better spent on similar projects by people with a co…

Couldn't you have a kickstarter where you only get part of a lump sum in the beginning for investments, and then minimum-wage for each employee each month? Keep the start-up lean and hungry and perhaps intrinsically motivated. I guess there's many problems and ideas that couldn't be funded this way but for those that can maybe they'd stand a higher chance of succeeding.

Even better was if you had a startup mentor that approved expenses.

Re: Update on Heml.is

#28

Post by flurp »

dewey wrote: post #21
Amir98 wrote: post #14

Ow:( This may be the saddest thing I read in a long time. I'm a very active person online (more than 10 hours/day) and have many friends in many countries that I communicate with on daily basis. Aside from Email, due to privacy concerns, I avoided any messaging platform (whether on FB, TW, Whatsapp, Viber, Skype, and any other platform) since 2003. I was eagerly waiting for the moment to introduce Hemlis to all my fr…

Why are you not using Signal / Textsecure or any other of these new apps which have privacy in mind. IIRC they even said Hemlis won't be open source according to their FAQ so I don't think these 3 guys would've pulled this off any better than Telegram even with their dubious encryption.

Seems they changed their mind about open source, according to the comments section[1] "We’ll release the usable parts of the code as free software with the most free license we can. It belongs to the community (and the community paid for it)."

[1] http://blog.brokep.com/2015/04/22/update-on-heml-is/#comment...

Re: Update on Heml.is

#29

Post by flurp »

Fogh wrote: post #12

They could at least open source the code that has been made as part of the project.

They will according to the comment section[1]

"We’ll release the usable parts of the code as free software with the most free license we can. It belongs to the community (and the community paid for it)."

[1] http://blog.brokep.com/2015/04/22/update-on-heml-is/#comment...

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