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French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by pikzen »

Nusyne wrote: post #19
pikzen wrote: post #14

La Quadrature du Net has also affirmed that while they were demonstrating in front of the National Assembly, there were two IMSI Catchers. And the law wasn't even passed yet. Great example of what will happen. ( http://www.franceinfo.fr/actu/politique/article/des-appareil... link in french, can provide a translation if needed) Bernard Cazeneuve, our ministre de l'Intérieur (Tasked with internal security, i.e. police…

TextSecure is either Text (SMS, which are not encrypted), OR secure (data). Not both simultaneously.

Yeah, I'm referring to the part where they use data. That said, didn't WhisperSystems remove the SMS part recently ? Or was it just SMS encryption ?

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by personlurking »

yc1010 wrote: post #15
steamy wrote: post #6

It just took ONE small-scale false flag operation "Charlie Hebdo" for the French people to give up their rights and for their predatory security apparatus to jump and devour them.

Irish here (to give a context for a long time this place was synonymous with terrorism) Quite a lot of Europeans scoffed at Americans in early 00s pointing (rightly) at the overreaction that followed such as {invading Iraq|Patriot Act|TSA crap|Further rise of the military industrial complex} for highly questionable reasons was. It took much smaller (yet equally as appalling attacks as 9/11) in Spain, UK and France fo…

Essentially we have this http://i.imgur.com/ALIbtVi.jpg

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by zz1 »

pikzen wrote: post #14

La Quadrature du Net has also affirmed that while they were demonstrating in front of the National Assembly, there were two IMSI Catchers. And the law wasn't even passed yet. Great example of what will happen. ( http://www.franceinfo.fr/actu/politique/article/des-appareil... link in french, can provide a translation if needed) Bernard Cazeneuve, our ministre de l'Intérieur (Tasked with internal security, i.e. police…

Not Pidgin! Jitsi.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by fzn »

French president Hollande is visiting Lausanne, Switzerland this afternoon. His trains supposedly arrives at 3:20 at Prilly-Malley station. He will then proceed to the EPFL (Polytechnic school). [Full schedule http://files.newsnetz.ch/story/3/0/0/30072626/11/topelement.... ]

Allegedly to protect the people, the object of that law is rather to decriminalize and widen the PM's surveillance capabilities.

The law just exempted french agents for any illegal data acquisition done on foreign targets. One of the seven goals the law encompasses is "major scientific and economic interests". Don't deal with France, starting from may 6th.

Kudos to the couple deputies that show concern and bear with the long hours and kafkaesque atmosphere.

Mandatory handling of encryption keys on request is also part of the package. Hosters and ISPs like it.

"DPI algorithms shall remain secret, for they'll lose their effectiveness otherwise." Such StO.

Oversight over it all will be restricted to a 7-ish member court.

We must not remain silent as France openly turns into a police state.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by zz1 »

Joona wrote: post #18
zz1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They announced that they are going to relocate, indeed: https://eu.ovh.com/fr/news/articles/a1743.le-gouvernement-ve... And launched a big initiative to federate tech actors against the bill: http://ni-pigeons-ni-espions.fr/ ######## Breaking ######## Octave Klaba finally declares that the bill doesn't compromise the trust chain. https://twitter.com/olesovhcom/status/588666965755092993

Did they release an English translation of that? (Google Translate link: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3... )

Not that I am aware of.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by zz1 »

pikzen wrote: post #21
Nusyne wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TextSecure is either Text (SMS, which are not encrypted), OR secure (data). Not both simultaneously.

Yeah, I'm referring to the part where they use data. That said, didn't WhisperSystems remove the SMS part recently ? Or was it just SMS encryption ?

Just SMS encryption, which went to http://smssecure.org/, but having both installed leads to bugs.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Post by RobertoG »

yc1010 wrote: post #15
steamy wrote: post #6

It just took ONE small-scale false flag operation "Charlie Hebdo" for the French people to give up their rights and for their predatory security apparatus to jump and devour them.

Irish here (to give a context for a long time this place was synonymous with terrorism) Quite a lot of Europeans scoffed at Americans in early 00s pointing (rightly) at the overreaction that followed such as {invading Iraq|Patriot Act|TSA crap|Further rise of the military industrial complex} for highly questionable reasons was. It took much smaller (yet equally as appalling attacks as 9/11) in Spain, UK and France fo…

I doubt it has nothing to do with Islam. The real problem is that this is power for "free". They can do this because the population (except a few hackers, pirates and other freaks) doesn't care..

And I can't think in any way to change that. In fact, it's easy to see how it's going to grow worse.

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